Apple's 16-inch MacBook Pro is now official: better keyboard, audio, more power and battery...

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Highly anticipated: Apple's 16-inch MacBook Pro has arrived with an improved scissor keyboard and a bigger screen in what is pretty much the same body of the 15-inch model. It also starts at the same price of $2,399.

Apple's much-awaited revamped MacBook Pro replaces the 15-inch variant moving forward. Everything about it is better, including the screen, the internals, and most importantly, the keyboard.

The new 16-inch MacBook Pro has a slightly larger screen that sports a 3072 by 1920 resolution and has support for the P3 color gamut and Apple's True Tone. The company fitted a bigger, brighter display that can get up to 500 nits, but doesn't support HDR. The display panel has a slightly higher density of 226 PPI and Apple managed to keep the overall body size of the 15-inch MacBook, it's just slightly thicker and slightly heavier (0.7 mm thicker, 0.3 pounds heavier).

The most anticipated improvement, however, is the keyboard. Apple has finally moved back to use the tried-and-tested scissor switch mechanism that many people have come to appreciate in models prior to the 2016-2019 MacBook Pros.

The new "Magic Keyboard" does have a smaller, 1mm travel when compared to the 2015 MacBook Pro, but Apple believes it has nailed the balance by making the keys slightly smaller to leave more ample space between them. And they should also prove easier to repair, with no need to replace the entire front part.

There's still a touchbar at the top of the keyboard, but now there's a physical Esc key, and the arrow keys are now placed in the standard, inverted T alignment.

As for the internals, Apple offers a choice of 6-core and 8-core Intel CPUs backed up by anywhere between 16 and 64 GB of DDR4 RAM. The base storage has also been increased to a 512 GB SSD, and can go up to 8TB if you're willing to pay in excess of $6,000 for the privilege.

Of course, with all that power comes greater responsibility to keep the new MacBook cool, so Apple has included a new thermal system that is able to push more air through larger heatsinks, and various design touches that should improve overall heat dissipation for sensitive components.

The biggest improvement should be seen in sustained workloads, where the new thermal system is supposed to handle an additional 12 watts when compared to previous models.

The battery capacity has also been increased to 100 Wh (from 83.6Wh), which Apple says should be good for up to 11 hours of web browsing or movie playback. Speaking of movie playback, the new MacBook features a six-speaker system that Apple is calling "force-cancelling woofers." Otherwise, the connectivity options remain unchanged from the standard four USB-C/Thunderbolt 3 ports and a headphone jack.

For those of you who want to get your hands on the new MacBook Pro, it's available for pre-order on Apple's online store. The maxed out configuration will run you a jaw-dropping $6,099, but comes with an 8-core processor, 8TB of SSD storage and 64 GB of RAM, which is a lot of power indeed.

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No HDR? They made iPad Pro-s 2 years ago with HDR. What's going on? Releasing a top product like this without HDR today is just bad.
 
Soldered parts? Check
Premium price for medium hardware? Check
Unreliable devices for elitist people so that they can satisfy their ego? Check
I'll pass, thank you very much.
 
To give Apple credit, releasing it with the price of old 15.6" model while offering much better base on top of the line model (1TB NVMe and new Radeon 5500M). New 16" looks really tasty. I bet coders dancing right now with "physical Esc key". Especially investing in 8GB VGA model is basically a must take considering it is just such tiny price increase.

For now will wait couple of weeks for reviews and thermals.

In all quite positive, not perfect of course, but positive.
 
To give Apple credit, releasing it with the price of old 15.6" model while offering much better base on top of the line model (1TB NVMe and new Radeon 5500M). New 16" looks really tasty. I bet coders dancing right now with "physical Esc key". Especially investing in 8GB VGA model is basically a must take considering it is just such tiny price increase.

For now will wait couple of weeks for reviews and thermals.

In all quite positive, not perfect of course, but positive.
The effing thermals had *better* be better.

I had the pleasure of setting up and testing one 6-core 15" and one 8-core 15" MacBook Pro and in some tests which hammer all cores, the 8 core did worse. You could see all 8 cores rummaging around 70% cpu usage while the 6-core model had all cores above 95% usage.

Both still had to throttle way down to accommodate the 56W (BIOS imposed?) limit observed in Intel Power Gadget, still above rated GHz spec but of course well below max all-core turbo. Because they were running at 100°C as the cooling couldn't handle the 80-90W peak power output. When it came for Mrs. Zealand to get a new one for work (6 year old Haswell suffered an accident), I recommended the 6-core and pass on the 8.

There is good reason to expect that Apple actually will implement a good cooling system: the Mac Mini. In the same size case, my 2018 Mini cools the 6-core at all core turbo no throttling, at about 80°C constant. My 2012 4-core Mini cannot handle it's 4-core all-core turbo, hitting it's 105°C limit and throttling a bit in any room warmer than about 19°C. 1 bin down @20°C, 6 bins down at 30°C (yes, a very warm room).
 
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