Asus ENGTX580 GeForce GTX 580 Review

Nice review as usual there Steve. I am curious about why far Cry 2 is still in the rotation? I have seen the same on other sites as well.
 
"According to 3Dmark Vantage, the GeForce GTX 580 is 39% faster than the GeForce GTX 480 at 2560x1600, a considerable increase in performance. That said, the same benchmark believes the Radeon HD 5870 is 4% faster than the Radeon HD 5970, so we'll take its findings with grain of salt."

i believe you mean that the 3dmark vantage benchmark shows the 5870 is 4% faster than the 480 not the 5970

back to article: looks like a good card, but i'll wait for the 69xx,560s and 2xthem :)
 
An improvement but still not enough i would say. You can still argue that its not enough performance given the power consumption. Nothing special about the price tag either. Certainly a better option than the 480 ever was though, but i suspect that AMD will win this round once more, I'll wait on the 6900 series.
 
Nice review as usual there Steve. I am curious about why far Cry 2 is still in the rotation? I have seen the same on other sites as well.

Firstly thanks for the kind feedback!

Now on to the Far Cry question. I guess the short answer is because Far Cry 3 is not out yet ;) haha

Why should we drop it? Yeah its getting old but the GeForce GTX 580 only averaged 66fps at 2560x1600 with a minimum of 46fps. More over the mid-range cards just managed to get into the 40s so it is still very demanding. Personally I would rather see more games than less and this is the only game we test with that uses the Dunia Engine, so it is unique in that sense.
 
Honestly, anybody willing to fork for a GTX480 might as well just go for a 580. True the differences isn't night and day, but the performance in Crysis, Metro 2033, and AVP at almost 60fps is pretty damn good in my eyes.

On my GTX465 for Crysis I can barely manage 25-30fps overclocked at 1080p 0xAA. Meh...

I want a 580 so bad just to play this damn game in decent fps as well as get ready for Crysis 2 next year. Let's hope the 580's price drops in the next 6 months hehe
 
I can't believe we have this many readers that own the GTX 465, yesterday there were a few and here it goes again. Unfortunately that card was never a good buy :(
 
Even being a fanboy of AMDs cards, price/performance/cooling/power wise the GTX 580 looks really cool.
 
This card is serious single GPU firepower. Gotta get me one of these cards for Christmas ! :)
I was planning to pair my older GTX 275 with a GTX 470 until this card came out.
 
Good review, glad to see TS's results for the 580. Looks like a good card, especially compared to its predecessor, the 480.
I like Far Cry 2 being in the round up of games, it helps keep older games and older GPUs in perspective. Hope to see the price come back down to the release price of $500, same thing happens with almost all GPUs, I copied some newegg links for some 6850 and 6870 right when they were released and went back this week to recheck prices and some had gone up $10 to $20.
 
Using Far Cry 2 is still very valid. Whether you like the game or not, it is one of the more graphically pleasing (and taxing) games still out there. It's almost in the same league as Crysis as a test bed.

Now here comes the big question. You can buy and run two GTX 460's in SLI for $100+ less than this card costs. How about a comparison of that, por favor? :)
 
TomSEA said:
Using Far Cry 2 is still very valid. Whether you like the game or not, it is one of the more graphically pleasing (and taxing) games still out there. It's almost in the same league as Crysis as a test bed.

Now here comes the big question. You can buy and run two GTX 460's in SLI for $100+ less than this card costs. How about a comparison of that, por favor? :)

hmm i would love to see such a benchmarks Price wise and best deal there is also the 6870 crossfire etc..
 
TomSEA said:

Now here comes the big question. You can buy and run two GTX 460's in SLI for $100+ less than this card costs. How about a comparison of that, por favor? :)

Totally agree with this, Does the GTX580 beat 2x GTX460 SLI?

DBZ usually has the best links to these kind of things.
 
GTX 580 vs GTX 460 SLI benchmarks

Totally agree with this, Does the GTX580 beat 2x GTX460 SLI?

DBZ usually has the best links to these kind of things.

Glad to oblige...
Here's one of the better ones from HT4U. German site (Googlish)- very meticulous as always


Nice review.
Will be interesting to see how the HD6970/6950 shapes up in a few weeks and what effect it's introduction has on pricing structures.
 
Thanks divide. Looks like without a doubt your best bang for the buck is to go with the GTX460 SLI. That setup matches or beats the GTX580 in all but a very few comparisons. And for a hundred bucks or more cheaper.
 
Asus RoG did a nice GTX580 Quad SLI setup with a Rampage III Formula and Xpander. The 3DMark Vantage score was 62,655 on air... Fricken insane! The system was pulling 1243 watts. RoG Source
 
This is why I like your guys reviews you don't playcate to a card strengths you put it to one setting for all them and let it ride. The best way to review imo, great job as always guys. Any idea on a SLI review?
 
Nice review except for some results, I'm not sure if a certain game favoured ATI/AMD or Nvidia but these results are very different and some times very... suspicious =/

For example I noticed that the 5870 and even the 5850 got higher than the 470 and even VERY close to the 480 in Crysis Warhead, this is rubbish I had a 5870 and with or without anti aliasing the 470 is more or less equal(and with anti aliasing better) than the 5870 =/
 
Johny47 said:
Nice review except for some results, I'm not sure if a certain game favoured ATI/AMD or Nvidia but these results are very different and some times very... suspicious =/

For example I noticed that the 5870 and even the 5850 got higher than the 470 and even VERY close to the 480 in Crysis Warhead, this is rubbish I had a 5870 and with or without anti aliasing the 470 is more or less equal(and with anti aliasing better) than the 5870 =/

Are you running the canned benchmark or using FRAPS? I can tell you the results are not rubbish, test with FRAPS and you will find the same thing. Also if you are not sure what games favor which brand then how do you find the results suspicious? Seems like a stupid thing to say and all in the same sentence.
 
As someone who is still using a HD4870 this card is looking mighty tasty. That being said. The price in Oz for this card is still above the 5970, which is quite odd...
 
Firstly thanks for the kind feedback!

Now on to the Far Cry question. I guess the short answer is because Far Cry 3 is not out yet ;) haha

Why should we drop it? Yeah its getting old but the GeForce GTX 580 only averaged 66fps at 2560x1600 with a minimum of 46fps. More over the mid-range cards just managed to get into the 40s so it is still very demanding. Personally I would rather see more games than less and this is the only game we test with that uses the Dunia Engine, so it is unique in that sense.

Did I type Far Cry 3?

I wasn't suggesting that it be dropped. I was merely curious about why it seems to be universally kept in rotation...ie what it is that you like about it that keeps it in there. The testing is all relative so it does not matter. Just a curiosity... thats all;)
this is the only game we test with that uses the Dunia Engine, so it is unique in that sense.

And that answers that :)
 
All this gpu releases make me think that AMD and Nvidia are in cahoots. If they weren't, Nvidia would be releasing a faster card given that they were given a good 1 year head start. With the benchmarks here and on other sites, it only looks like Nvidia is playing catch-up, which is nonsense in a business perspective (Nvidia is in it for the money of course).

Sure there are always fanboys and fangirls but c'mon, this is just ludicrous. I'd bet that they're testing the waters to see if they can sell the same old card performance even after a year and providing a so-called "competitor" released it to compete with AMD's 5970.

Leave it to the fanboys to suck up to these companies' psychological manipulation.
 
Thanks divide. Looks like without a doubt your best bang for the buck is to go with the GTX460 SLI. That setup matches or beats the GTX580 in all but a very few comparisons. And for a hundred bucks or more cheaper.
The metric should change a little in the near future. The GTX 580's drivers are going to add a good chunk of performance over the next few months. The card should also come down in price once the HD 6970/6950 launches. At the present time the GTX 580 only has the GTX 480 (who's failings are well known) and the HD 5870 2Gb (excessively expensive) as "competition" in the single card arena- I don't count the HD 5970 since it seems to be largely disappearing from shelves.
On other hand GTX 460 prices I think may remain fairly static. Their competition is already in the channel (HD 6850/6870), and the GTX 560 I doubt will be hurried to replace it while 460 stock exists unless AMD start squeezing prices or going nuts with the factory overclock cards. HD 6870 supply at the moment seems a little constrained given the available models which should ensure no price cuts there.

I think it reasonable to assume performance/$ should be much closer once the HD 6970/6950 launch in December.
 
"can't believe we have this many readers that own the GTX 465, yesterday there were a few and here it goes again. Unfortunately that card was never a good buy "

Hey to be fair, it seemed like a good buy at the time until you actually get it home lol. I admit, it runs hotter than and louder than it's necessary. But some are lucky to unlock them to a GTX470. Unfortunately for me it's just a regular 465, but I did buy it only for $180 back when it came out. If I were to turn back time I'd have a 460 or 470 right now. :(
 
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