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California may be first to get electronic license plates

By Shawn Knight ยท 43 replies
Sep 9, 2013
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  1. tipstir

    tipstir TS Ambassador Posts: 2,842   +193

    This would be an end to all the plates being taken off the cars and and sold for other uses. I've been in some states in the North East that have plates stolen. Up there people bolt their plates to the vehicle or stick it inside the vehicle in the rear glass. But that rear glass can get smashed just for the plate.

    Freedom should not come into play. We need a better system today. I am for it! As my state keeps on changing the state plate just because they want too and charge you. So much if you want something fancier where no one really cares what your plate really looks like except you.
  2. tonylukac

    tonylukac TS Evangelist Posts: 1,376   +72

    All those "illegal immigrants" can hack and get them. How do they drive anyway?
  3. dennis777

    dennis777 TS Enthusiast Posts: 285   +33

    Nice idea it has WiFi, add some Bluetooth and a 18megapixel camera... hope its water proof.
  4. ikesmasher

    ikesmasher TS Evangelist Posts: 3,050   +1,384

    Honestly I can't see this being infringing to freedoms in any way, and it certainly helps in discovering lost vehicles (if the thief is stupid enough to leave it on)
    Honestly, it SHOULD have a camera on it, and could make backup cameras fairly standard on all cars.
    These could cost less than $100 with a camera and say, a 320x640 screen. Less than that even maybe.
  5. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 11,287   +4,942

    I don't know why they would spend time pissing with this concept.

    Every car can be programmed to broadcast the VIN code. With this VIN broadcast, any officer can check their database for automobiles not licensed for highway use. Insurance records could also be tied into the same database. Anytime the automobile is serviced the VIN broadcast can be authenticated with the automobiles physical VIN code. The broadcast doesn't have to be long range and the patrol car can be automated to look for discrepancies, out of all the nearby automobiles and lock in on those signals.
  6. tipstir

    tipstir TS Ambassador Posts: 2,842   +193

    VIN can be removed... DMV cost going up and up.. Can only save on the cost by paying for two years of registration in advance online. Never in person the lines are ridiculous of course they have this new name system in place. Still titles and plates and now land taxes all at the same place ouch!
  7. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 11,287   +4,942

    So can license plates, no matter how technical they get. I don't see your point. Especially when your licenses plate is registered using the VIN code on record.
  8. Arris

    Arris TS Evangelist Posts: 4,690   +425

    Only if they are more aerodynamic than the standard plates ;)
  9. Jad Chaar

    Jad Chaar Elite Techno Geek Posts: 6,482   +978

  10. Emexrulsier

    Emexrulsier TS Evangelist Posts: 600   +80

    Why do you renew plates every year in the US?? In the UK you buy a car with a registration mark and that's it nothing more to do unless you sell or transfer the car, then it's a simple case of letting the DVLA (Uk licensing agency) know the new keeper.
  11. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 11,287   +4,942

    Because our government will find anything to charge us repetitiously.
  12. Tygerstrike

    Tygerstrike TS Enthusiast Posts: 827   +93

    A great idea on paper. Execution however not to mention adoption is going to be slow. Mainly from what we have seen in just the posts here. ppl are too paranoid to introduce new tech to them. Reguardless of the fact that youre tracked everywhere you go everyday and have been since cellphones came out. Thats all besides the point. Where is the American spirit? Where is the American Fire?? Here we have a somewhat acceptable solution to a multitude of problems and ppl wont take it because they dont want to be tracked. Let me be the first to tell all those paranoid idjits this.....THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT YOU!!!! Them tracking you is no different from tracking a fly in flight. Or watching a train go by. Its information but definatly NOT related to what they are doing. YOU ARE NOT IMPORTANT ENOUGH FOR THEM TO WASTE TIME AND MANPOWER TO TRACK YOU!!!
    That being said, this is a good idea. Maybe not have the wifi on at all times but at designated areas such as mechanics, smog checks, tire changes. This would help Amber Alerts. This could help stop abductions. The level of problems this tech could solve is actually quite amazing. Its just sad that the fruits nuts and flakes of the world will make sure this tech gets no farther then its current state.
  13. mailpup

    mailpup TS Special Forces Posts: 7,386   +616

    Tygerstrike, please hold down the shouting.
  14. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 11,287   +4,942

    I don't understand why such a big deal about using all caps. Now if the whole post was all caps or if it was directed at someone specific, I might would understand.
  15. gunste24

    gunste24 TS Rookie Posts: 39

    More unnecessary costs. You can register and get your tags by mail in California - no need to go to the DMV offices. Most likely, such plates would have a chip in it so that you can be identified in passing - privacy.
    Darth Shiv likes this.
  16. sameh_riad

    sameh_riad TS Rookie

    I totally agree. The first thing that came to my mind was hackers hacking on to this system and announcing that all cars were stold, like the eagle eye movie :) or even someone renewing his own license plate without even having to pay. oh weird hope that doesn't prove I have a devious mind set :)
    RenGood08 likes this.
  17. Darth Shiv

    Darth Shiv TS Evangelist Posts: 1,959   +576

    We don't do stickers in NSW, Australia anymore. Still have the physical plates but police do IR scanning now so they can just sit on the road and scan everyone with IR scanning in an over 90 degree arc. Apparently collected several hundred million plates, datetimes and GPS locations on file.

    Apparently there has been a court case (I think actually in SF) where these sort of records were subpoenaed in the divorce court. Interesting privacy implications for this sort of data collection on innocent people.
  18. Darth Shiv

    Darth Shiv TS Evangelist Posts: 1,959   +576

    Exactly. Imagine your every move is tracked and stored in a database. Now imagine if someone manages to get unethical access to data on your movements. What if this person was a competitor? Your ex? Who knows... it's a privacy minefield.

    Surely the default should be to not store tonnes of data on innocent people?
  19. RenGood08

    RenGood08 TS Booster Posts: 183   +13

    To be in information security, you need to have a devious mindset. My interest is to get into Information Security. In order to be ahead of the evil minded hackers, you have to have a rather similar mindset so you can slow them down or stop them. =D All in due time. All in due time.

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