Canadian government approves extradition process in Huawei CFO case

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In early December we reported that Meng had been arrested while traveling in Canada at America’s request. She was charged with selling HP equipment to Iran on behalf of Hong Kong company Skycom from 2009 to 2014 when such trade was strictly prohibited by US sanctions. Since then, she’s also been accused of copying T-Mobile’s phone testing technology for Huawei. She was granted bail but has remained in Canada for the last three months, despite an official request by the Chinese embassy to free her.

Following the decision to proceed with the extradition process, Meng’s lawyers told The Verge that Meng “maintains that she is innocent of any wrongdoing,” and that “the US prosecution and extradition constitutes an abuse of the process of law.”

The Department of Justice predicted such arguments in their announcement of the transfer, which emphasized that “Canada is a country governed by the rule of law,” which relied on “constitutional principles of fairness and due process” to make this decision. Even without directly stating it, the Department made it clear that they were focusing on the evidence, rather than buckling under pressure from the US.

The Department of Justice evaluates situations like this very carefully, requiring there to be a good chance that a court would find the defendant guilty in both Canada and America and that the sentences in both countries would exceed at least one-year imprisonment. Thus, it’s likely that Meng’s seemingly inevitable trial in the US will result in a guilty sentence, further ruining Huawei’s relationship with the Western world.

On March 6 the British Columbia Supreme Court will set a hearing date to give Meng one last chance to escape America’s clutches. The Department of Justice will act as the prosecution. Intriguingly, during the court case, all the charges and the evidence supporting them will become available to the public. Perhaps some light will finally be shed on why America has been targeting Huawei so relentlessly when there’s been no public evidence of spying.

Correction: A previous revision of this article suggested Meng Wanzhou was being handed over to the US government, which is not correct. Canada has agreed to move forward, formally commencing an extradition process, but the final decision has yet to be made by the Canadian's court.

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Mr Majestyk

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America needs to stop poking their noses where it doesn't belong.
Or maybe Chinese companies should stop committing crimes and screwing over the western world.
Western world has screwed itself over. We empowered China and gave them our manufacturing and jobs. Reap what you sow. And as though the West has clean hands. USA and China are both scum.
 

captaincranky

Posts: 16,301   +5,085
America needs to stop poking their noses where it doesn't belong.
Such a harsh opinion and condemnation based on so few facts. Why don't y'all tell us where you think America should be allowed to go?

Maybe you could wait until after the extradition hearing is actually held, before you determine what its outcome should be.

And BTW subject and verb need to agree in tense and number. This doesn't:

"America needs to stop poking their noses where it doesn't belong".

This does:
"America needs to stop poking its nose where it doesn't belong".
As does this:
"Americans need to stop poking their noses where they don't belong".

I'd be more inclined to listen to your crap if you learned to speak English.
 
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Uncle Al

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America needs to stop poking their noses where it doesn't belong.
There was a time when I would have been in total agreement, but as small as the world has become we have to keep on top of every situation and when the Agency see's problems, especially with their new director, you can bet we don't know the half of it. If there are legitimate charges, pursue them but if this strictly a political play, there are much smarter moves to be made and playing with "human capital" will only result in retaliation and indifference to the message we want them to hear.
 
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Avenger001

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America needs to stop poking their noses where it doesn't belong.
Or maybe Chinese companies should stop committing crimes and screwing over the western world.
Western world has screwed itself over. We empowered China and gave them our manufacturing and jobs. Reap what you sow. And as though the West has clean hands. USA and China are both scum.
Based on historical data that is widely available, this comment is 100% correct. China had both cheap labor, a potentially huge market and the skilled workforce to offshore our jobs but china was smart about this; They only allowed entry into their markets as long as you were willing to give up 50% ownership to a local business. This is what gave the Chinese access to intellectual property, not the propaganda they feed you to manufacture consent for any actions we want to take.

We decided it was a good idea to DE-industrialize; we decided it was a good idea to give the rich tax havens at our own expense; we decided it was a good idea to, offshore jobs and give up intellectual property for money. We decided it was better to destabilize countries through regime change and finance in order to gain access to natural resources.

With all this data widely available, you need to prove to us that this wasn't the case, not the other way around
 
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captaincranky

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.......We decided it was a good idea to DE-industrialize; we decided it was a good idea to give the rich tax havens at our own expense; we decided it was a good idea to, offshore jobs and give up intellectual property for money. We decided it was better to destabilize countries through regime change and finance in order to gain access to natural resources.....
I agree that all that has happened, but your use of the pronoun "we", is a massive over simplification.There are a whole lot of different actors posing as your "we", in "the big picture".

As one example, labor unions acting as bargaining agents for factory workers, have pretty much priced American labor out of reach for an industrial company to remain profitable. But labor unions have done a lot of "good over the years", providing workers with job stability. But today's contract negotiations are far far cry from those of the past.

The American public as a whole, are a greedy, stupid, and easily led bunch of "sheepish predatory imbeciles" (*), who are constantly being bombarded with every propaganda tactic available, by the industrial complex, PACs, and companies hawking their wares in an unrelenting and unrepentant manner, on every form of media available.

It's stated in the constitution that "'we' the people have the right to petition the congress for a redress of grievances". Which has been subverted over the years by large corporations hiring "lobbyists", to, "redress their grievances", which in large part results in massive overcharging by big pharma, and manufacturing jobs heading to the Pacific Rim, China, Mexico, and elsewhere.

So: from the Communist Manifesto:
Marx argued that the capitalist bourgeoisie mercilessly exploited the proletariat. He recognised that the work carried out by the proletariat created great wealth for the capitalist. ... He described how the wealth of the bourgeoisie depended on the work of the proletariat. Therefore, capitalism requires an underclass.

He made some good points, which were once again distorted and perverted by those in power to subjugate the people. Thus yielding The Soviet Union, China's form of Communism, and many others. Say for example, North Korea.

Humans do have a sort of herding "instinct", and the flock needs to be led by an "Alpha". The trouble is, that person or entity, is only subject to their personal agenda. "World domination", is often at the top of the list.

The takeaway from this is the fact that all governed individuals, due to their stupidity, have had their own wool , pulled over their own eyes.

(*) While I know that might sound like either an oxymoron or a massive paradox, trust me it isn't. You just have to resolve yourself to the concrete fact that during his "evolution", man has merely transferred his animal traits to his higher brain functions.
 

Edito

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America needs to stop poking their noses where it doesn't belong.
Or maybe Chinese companies should stop committing crimes and screwing over the western world.
If you think the chinese are committing crimes and screwing the western world I really don't know what to tell you because your beloved americans are afraid of anything that is far beyond they reach and they do everthing in their power to mess it up but unfortunately for them chine is far far ahead of them and it's a matter of time until they hand her over to where she belongs, in the free world.