applesauce
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When a company lies to you too get you to invest money, that's illegal and you should get sued...
CD Projekt Red slapped with class action lawsuit over buggy Cyberpunk 2077 launch
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axiomatic13
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m4a4
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I think you should look up what "context" means...
Unless they lied about their financial health (e.g. Income, expenses, liability) this is a nothing burger. Just look up the law firm, their the equalavent of financial ambulance chasers.
Rayneofpayne
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On PC the game isn't unplayable, I can agree maybe the last gen consoles were unplayable which is probably why the fee upgrades were given.
How many are broken on this scale across two standardized systems?
LOL this comment section is so trashy. Everyone is protecting CDPR like they are some kind of savior of gaming industry meanwhile they are the same trash just like any other company...
WhAt GaMe WaS eVeR bUg FrEe?!
Non. But I don't remember ever seeing a game just as trashy as CDPR was/is and the biggest nail on the top is another trashy people who are saying: JuSt BuY iT oN Ps5!
Like how dumb you have to be to say this? If this would be released back in April what would these people say? wait for bug fixes? Meanwhile other games who are fully playable but yet still have some bugs they would say: Oh REFUND!
Whoever overhyped this thing & joined the hype train should know what he is getting into especially after No Man's Sky.
WhAt GaMe WaS eVeR bUg FrEe?!
Non. But I don't remember ever seeing a game just as trashy as CDPR was/is and the biggest nail on the top is another trashy people who are saying: JuSt BuY iT oN Ps5!
Like how dumb you have to be to say this? If this would be released back in April what would these people say? wait for bug fixes? Meanwhile other games who are fully playable but yet still have some bugs they would say: Oh REFUND!
Whoever overhyped this thing & joined the hype train should know what he is getting into especially after No Man's Sky.
Alfatawi Mendel
Posts: 299 +497
Don't see why users can't do the same with Microsoft and their Bugged to the Max Windows OS.
Unlike games, this can have devastating effects like data loss and the like.
TIME TO SUE MICROSOFT!! /s
Endymio
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Yes, I can predict the settlement already: $50M+ for the attorneys involved, with each customer eligible for a $1.25 refund check -- if they're willing to jump through several documentary hoops to receive it.
A textbook example of both disinformation and the "guilt by association" logical fallacy, made all the more ironic as class-action and tort attorneys are one of the most strident and remunerative bastions of the Democratic Party: without their annual campaign contributions, it is doubtful the party could even survive.
yRaz
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CDPR was literally receiving death threats to release the game. And I would argue that they are one of the last few "good" developers left. Lets not kid ourselves, they are a business and their job is to make money, but at the same time they still have some good business practices. They run GoG, which is a DRM free games service and there isn't a microtransaction or loot box in sight.
They screwed up, but they're working hard to fix their mistake and are doing the responsible thing by giving people their money back. Frankly, I don't know what more they could possible do at this point.
And lets not forget the roll that nVidia played in this whole thing, it's something I don't see anyone talking about. A big part of the reason for the delays was because CDPR had to rework their engine for raytracing and DLSS support.
Endymio
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A Christmas cookie to the first poster to name the fallacy in the above statement.
Now all console users know how PC gamers fell when we get broken port.
I can tell you struggle with the throw away one liners so well done for stringing your political ideals on mine.
I bought the game tonight.
If it is unplayable I will sue myself before announcing it at my local Waldorf Garden Centre.
Endymio
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That's better than hanging yourself, I suppose.
Crinkles
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Tropes and idioms for $2.00.
Do your own google: https://thebestschools.org/magazine/15-logical-fallacies-know/
Reehahs
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If this is the case then I would like to see Bethesda and EA punished first. Elder Scrolls, Fallout, and multiplayer fps are full of bugs.
Axle Grease
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It'll be dismissed.
As a last gen console owner it is unfortunate, but you got refunded?
As a last gen console owner it is unfortunate, but you got refunded?
They should just take a page from the old Blizzard and announce it'll be released "when its done" nobody questioned the old blizzard because they were legends. When it became a public company everything changed, and maybe thats the same with CD Project. If they just released for PC, PS5 & Xbox S and said the PS4 & Xbox one versions will release next year, they wouldn't have had this debacle. But hindsight is 20/20
But it was a PC game first, that was then ported over to consoles at a later date. That makes all the difference in the world. What we're currently seeing with the PS4/Xbox1 versions is the same sort of problems we see when the port is console to PC. How long did it take to port Horizon Dawn, RDR2, or GTA V over to the PC? And more importantly what was the result?
Yeah... not so good. In this case the games complexity grew as it was going through development, which often happens for PC games due to the fact that there's no solid hardware target, unlike consoles. For example ray tracing also didn't exist when the game first entered development, it was added later. So the game as it started life most likely could of run fine on last gen base consoles. But as it went through development it eventually left those capabilities behind, way behind.
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This is a different type of lawsuit. It's investors charging that they were mislead to encourage them to invest. So the first thing they have to prove is it was indeed fraud... possible, but I'd give it a 50/50 chance of success. Then they have to prove that the fraud resulted in financial damage... actually easier to prove, 90% chance. Lastly the big question, how much damage.
If the case succeeds it'll most likely take a financial audit of investors to come up with an amount to reward. As for how the reward is split up it'll be up to the terms of the contract plaintiffs signed with the firm bringing the class action. Yes the lawyers will take a large chunk, but there should still be a significant amount going to each member of the suit since it's a much smaller pool of potential plaintiffs.
This is not an end user suit. It's an investor suit. They're saying that CDPR committed fraud to encourage investment. OTOH M$ has all the bugs and glitches covered by the ELUA that we're all forced to agree to when we install the OS. So M$ can't be held libel for any damages. Because people using Windows are end users the absolute most you could get from a lawsuit is your initial purchase price anyway.
Not consumer lawsuit, investor charge of fraud to encourage investment. Totally different thing.
Endymio
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While what you say is correct, the fact remains that it is still a class action tort, which has become synonymous with abuse and exploitation. Investor suits normally either result in a minor nuisance settlement, or protracted litigation that results in the company cannibalizing itself to the benefit of no one but the attorneys involved.
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