Cryptocurrency market dips below $1 trillion as Bitcoin nears its lowest price of 2022

ZedRM

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What a flawed statement. Carbon emissions don't wait until you're running your system "24x7", now do they? Nor do emissions wait to occur until your CPU load reaches 100%. Miners at least have the excuse that they're supporting an industry. But video games generate nothing but waste .... and carbon:

"...According to a study published in The Computer Games Journal, video gamers in the United States alone produce as much as 24 megatonnes (24 million metric tons) of carbon dioxide per year. This makes U.S. gaming more costly to our environment than the entire activity of countries like Sri Lanka, Estonia, and Lebanon.

You were saying?
Wow... you really showed me up... with your nothing citation.

Common sense and simple math: Two things you're failing at.

But take comfort in the fact that you're not alone, eh Steve?
 

Endymio

Posts: 1,838   +1,909
Wow... you really showed me up... with your nothing citation.

Common sense and simple math: Two things you're failing at
Thank you for the kind words. Here's some more for you in that vein. The numbers in this study are a half-decade old, so the actual amounts will have risen dramatically since then:

"Globally, PC gamers use about 75 billion kilowatt hours of electricity a year, equivalent to the output of 25 electric power plants. (And that doesn’t include console games.) In the United States, games consumes $6 billion worth of electricity annually — more power than electric water heaters, cooking appliances, clothes dryers, dishwashers, or freezers. As the report concludes, “video gaming is among the very most intensive uses of electricity in homes.”

 

ZedRM

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Thank you for the kind words.
You're most welcome!
Here's some more for you in that vein. The numbers in this study are a half-decade old, so the actual amounts will have risen dramatically since then:

"Globally, PC gamers use about 75 billion kilowatt hours of electricity a year, equivalent to the output of 25 electric power plants. (And that doesn’t include console games.) In the United States, games consumes $6 billion worth of electricity annually — more power than electric water heaters, cooking appliances, clothes dryers, dishwashers, or freezers. As the report concludes, “video gaming is among the very most intensive uses of electricity in homes.”

Ok, now show a similar statement about mining power usage at the same time point as that article(2018). You see, I already know what those numbers are and the comparison is startling. Just an FYI, mining power usage in North America alone over shadows worldwide gaming power usage, and North America was NOT the largest mining region at that time. Mining only got more widespread after 2018.

Your pithy little point isn't one. You defeated yourself with it.

So, you were saying?
 

Karlos95

Posts: 289   +199
What a flawed statement. For one, gamers don't run their systems full load 24/7. GPU miners do. For two, even when gamers are playing, their systems are not at full load 100% of the time. For mining, the GPU's are at full load 100% of the time.

So, you were saying?
Most miners want to reduce their electricity bill which means, they turn to renewable most of the time. So basically, 100% of gamers couldn't give two craps about emissions, miners, don't really either but they reduce them when they reduce their electricity bill. Of course, this is the big miners im talking about, the ones that get smeared on right wing articles. The small 1 person with a few graphics cards (cause the big ones don't use them any more) operations wouldnt come close to the total emissions of gamers. With what your over priced, over specced gaming rig to play minecraft.

So many misinformed people here, quite sad. You guys are, I'm assuming, mostly gamers and don't know how to research technology.
 

Endymio

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Ok, now show a similar statement about mining power usage at the same time point.
Logic really isn't that difficult. I'll go over the argument more slowly: it's irrelevant whether gaming or mining generates the most emissions. What matter is that both do. The claim was made that mining is evil because it "contributes to global warming". So do videogames. If one is evil, both are. End of story.

So when do you plan to quit playing?
 

ZedRM

Posts: 1,342   +939
Logic really isn't that difficult. I'll go over the argument more slowly: it's irrelevant whether gaming or mining generates the most emissions.
You're not moving the goal posts. Either provide the comparative numbers or hush up.