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DirectX 12 will be exclusive to Windows 10

By Scorpus · 32 replies
Jan 21, 2015
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  1. albert89

    albert89 TS Rookie

    For those people who don't know, any AMD GPU that is HD 7000 series or up will have mantle preinstalled. This means you'll have API software that is not only better than DX12 but will work with any version of windows. So you don't have to upgrade if you don't want to. I have an i3 CPU and have found that mantle has reduced CPU demand by over 60% particularly when all of my RAM was used up with many tabs open in IE. And the added advantage with mantle is that it comes with quarterly updates whereas with DX you have to wait for the next version of windows and that could be years !
  2. dividebyzero

    dividebyzero trainee n00b Posts: 4,840   +1,268

    For those people who don't know, Mantle is an API incorporated into the game code, It's not "preinstalled" on any GPU
    Really? Mantle reduces CPU overhead, DX12 will do the same thing as well as add some graphics pipeline options including conservative rasterization
    Quite how you can state categorically that Mantle will be better than DirectX 12 when DX12's final specification hasn't even been finalized is beyond me.
    Your whole spiel sounds like poorly thought out PR boilerplate.
    LNCPapa and cliffordcooley like this.
  3. John Lacey

    John Lacey TS Rookie

    Mantle Sucked big time, I had 2 x HD7970 GHz in Crossfire, Mantle was atrocious and worked worse than DX11 in BF4. Swapped them out for a GTX970
  4. Night Hacker

    Night Hacker TS Enthusiast Posts: 125   +20

    I actually liked Windows 10 (what I seen of it) and will probably take the upgrade. I am just skeptical about anything free, but upon further investigation this does seem legitimate.
  5. BBlair

    BBlair TS Rookie

    So if you are a gamer that is not asleep, and not a complete dumbed down *****ic retard! And you do not want to be spied on! And you want to still game, You are basically just screwed! I figured DX12 would be Windows 10 only! Because Microsoft wants badly for everyone to get Windows 10 you can be spied on!
  6. Achievement unlocked
    100G - Conspiracy theorist
  7. BBlair

    BBlair TS Rookie

    Yeah the truth is now called conspiracy theory! It's a wonder you people today can remember how to walk!

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    This is only Microsoft's own privacy agreement for Windows 10, But I suppose that does not exist either! It's just a conspiracy theory!
  8. tl; skimmed.

    Spy, noun - a person who secretly collects and reports information on the activities, movements, and plans of an enemy or competitor.

    Spy, verb - work for a government or other organization by secretly collecting information about enemies or competitors.

    Nothing is secret about data monitoring. Everybody from your bank to Electronic Arts and the local police department is doing it and the vast majority of consumers and concerned citizens, in spite of all their keyboard protesting, invariably place ease and entertainment above their disdain for corporate and government surveillance.

    Next generation tech will be exclusive to a next generation OS... because they want your data. That's a conspiracy theory, bro.

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