Dislike XP After Using Ubuntu

Actually, Ubuntu does have an easy interface and is intuitive to use. After having used Macintosh and Windows, Ubuntu is the easiest I've come upon. It doesn't complain every time it itches like Windows does and I haven't had it freeze on me. The Linux kernel may not be a kernel for all seasons but they must be doing something right.
 
SNGX1275 said:
mopar man. Its not just Ubuntu that doesn't like winmodems, its linux in general. I remember back in about 2000 I looked into this beause I had a computer with Mandrake 7 on it, but unbeknownst to me regular modems you see in windows machines don't work in linux, so I looked into it, and some were supported. That was years ago, and since then there are many many fewer dial up users, so I bet nobody is even trying to write drivers for them anymore.

Winmodems are actually closer to being sound cards than real RS232 Seria modems. They are actually software based and this code being proprietary code and designed mainly for windows, is where the problem lies. USB DSL modems are similar. If you've ever used an alcatel/thomson speedtouch USB modem in Windows you'll notice that it has an icon in the system tray that shows the connection status etc. Well this is not just a simply tray icon you can exit from if you don't want it, it is the actual "modem" and is the program that loads the microcode, close it an your connection goes down with it. The hardware itself is just the bridge device. These alacatel modems are also troublesome under Linux.

The long and short of it is: Don't blame Linux, blame the hardware vendors for not releasing software/drivers for such devices.

If you're still stuck with dial up a good RS232 modem is a good investment. It needs no driver, just connect it to your serial port and dial away. For DSL users stuck with USB modems, do yourself a favour and get a decent hardware router.
 
The Exception that Proves the Rule........

I have DSL with Verizon. My modem is a Westell C90-610015-06. It's USB.
Ubuntu was able to find it and successfully connect to the web with FF, plus for all it's updates. Just lucky am I, I suppose.:confused:

I probably should have titled this "beginner's luck".
 
captaincranky said:
Considering how long M$ took to release Vista in all it's "wonder", how do you think the new OS will be with half the development time? I suspect we'll all be singing hymns to Linux by then.:confused:
u have point
 
Well no, because the "new OS" is already being developed since well before XP SP1 was released. MS switched to Longhorn (Vista) because the new MS OS (Blackcomb) was still not ready. Vista is not the great new OS people have made it out to be it's simply another "WinNT service pack", like XP and 2K before it. It was merely a stopgap - and this shows.

As to whether or not Blackcomb will be ready for release, or whether it will be replaced by yet another stopgap OS, only time will tell.

As to the winmodems, some are supported through the winmodems project and some PCI (and most legacy ISA) modems are not winmodems anyway. If it worked first time then it is likely that someone has built a driver for it and it was incorporated in the particular distro you were using. Lucky.
 
caravel said:
Vista is not the great new OS people have made it out to be it's simply another "WinNT service pack", like XP and 2K before it. It was merely a stopgap - and this shows.
Then XP was a very good stop-gap, as it has kept us occupied for the last ~6 years.
 
More than very good. Many still consider it to be the best Microsoft has made.

Also, I hope to god they use something different in the new Windows. I am actually tired of the same old type of Taskbar, etc.
 
Or maybe a mind reading, body controlling device that forces you to destroy all copies of linux, etc. so that Microsoft Windows is the only operating system you have, causing your computer to come to life and eat you?
 
You two should probably get out more.

Obi-Wan Jerkobi said:
Then XP was a very good stop-gap, as it has kept us occupied for the last ~6 years.
It still amuses me. Maybe I should get out more myself.
 
captaincranky, does it surprise you that we're the exact same age?

I don't really do a whole lot. I go out to my grandmothers, a friends house once in a blue moon, but otherwise I'm basically at home working on random things with my dad or on this time-wasting, life-killing machine.
 
I'm guessing you're referring to yourself and Obi-Wan, since when I was young, I looked out my window and saw dinosaurs.

Actually, there weren't any computers, so we had to rely on sexual promiscuity for entertainment. And since our parents, (the forerunners of the dinosaurs) were home, we had to rely on our "Chevy Motels", for "privacy". Well, I suppose there were "Mopar Motels" also, lest ye feel left out. Come to think of it, I actually owned a 1965 Dodge Coronet Convertible.

I understand the none of this can compare with playing Chrysis on a C2D with an 8800GTX video card, but such was our lot in life. Reel to reel tape recorders, tube televisions, and Who concerts, dull stuff basically.:p :rolleyes:
 
Another delightful outlook on life as he knew it, from captaincranky. :) Can THIS compare to playing Crysis on an AMD Opteron X2 and 9600GT? And who says tube televisions are dull? If you watch enough MacGyver, you see them explode, which is more than entertaining. :p
 
linux has been in ongoing development for 35 yearsand of this writing still reqiure users to make use of DOS like commands for some O.S. functions.For all the improved functionality it will always be an also ran in the home desktop game.linux should just stick to enterprise class and leave the home"stuff" for the big boys.
 
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