Electric 9-seater planes are on the way, can fly up to 500 miles on a full charge

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The big picture: Multiple startups are racing to get electric planes into the skies, but some are closer to achieving this than others. One of the frontrunners is Eviation, which is already accepting orders for its zero-emission, fully-electric Alice aircraft. However, certification challenges mean we likely won't be flying in Alice until the end of the decade.

The most recent orders come from UrbanLink Air Mobility, a South Florida company that is doubling down on its electrification plans for urban air travel. The initial order is for 10 nine-seat variants of the Alice, with options for 10 more in the future. This represents a significant step towards the company's goal of building an all-electric mobility network across its hub cities of Miami, Los Angeles, and San Juan.

The Alice aircraft relies on a substantial 8,000-pound battery pack housed within its 57-foot frame, enabling flights of up to 440 nautical miles. While its cruise speed of 287 mph won't break any land speed records, it promises a smooth, eco-friendly ride for short-haul commuter trips under 500 miles. According to Eviation, passengers can also expect a "significantly quieter" experience, free from the roar of combustion engines.

Alice completed its first test flight in September 2022, taking off from Grant County International Airport in Washington State. During the eight-minute flight, it reached an altitude of 3,500 feet. This milestone came approximately seven years after development began in 2015.

"Our order for ten Eviation Alice aircraft completes the third leg of our all-electric operating plan, giving us the ability to offer 9-seat, zero-emission flights across our network," said Ed Wegel, UrbanLink's founder and chairman. "Together with our regional eVTOL aircraft and electric sea vessels, we will provide seamless, sustainable travel options across the regions we serve, setting the stage for a fully integrated, eco-friendly travel experience."

Eviation's CEO, Andre Stein, celebrated the deal as "a significant milestone in our shared vision of creating a sustainable and efficient transportation network."

However, Alice still faces several key hurdles before it can take to the skies en masse. In July, Stein announced that the company anticipates certification for the plane to occur around 2028. This timeline represents a delay from earlier projections, which had Eviation flying a production-ready prototype by 2025 and achieving full certification within two years thereafter.

With over 600 orders worth $5 billion already secured from companies like Air New Zealand, DHL, and Cape Air, the momentum appears to be building.

In addition to Eviation, Joby Aviation is also making significant strides in electric aviation. While Joby specializes in all-electric aircraft, it recently completed a groundbreaking 523-mile flight across California using a new hydrogen variant.

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I get where they're going with this, but frankly an electric plane just seems like a bad idea. Those batteries are heavy and scale dont work with air travel. Weight quickly becomes an issue.

this is one of those industries where hydrogen would make a huge impact.
 
I get where they're going with this, but frankly an electric plane just seems like a bad idea. Those batteries are heavy and scale dont work with air travel. Weight quickly becomes an issue.

this is one of those industries where hydrogen would make a huge impact.
Yeah, I'm not sure they'll get to the energy density required to achieve those numbers by 2028. The tech has to be available sooner than that, since certification goal is 2028.

The closest planes I can think of to this are the Pipistral series, which are two-seaters and can fly for about 45 minutes, which makes them good for training (but even then they can't complete the cross-country portion of flight training).

I wish this company the best, but companies love to overpromise and hype, so I don't believe them for a minute. At least they were able to fly for 8 minutes to 3,500 feet. That shows promise as something they can turn into a short-range air taxi, but that's a far cry from 500 miles (3 hours with reserves) of range.
 
Air NZ, news to me, I'm sure they are highly conditional.

There is definitely a market, you would think easy to fly quadcopters would be biggest market for farmers, hunters, tourism , search and rescue. Given the huge cost of helicopters training, maintenance, fuel etc

Also wonder if get Egliders ie Gliders with power assist ( solar panels included )
 
Do you guys think they need active battery protection from cold?
If the battery requires to kept warm by a heating device,
I would think that it would create a dangerous breakage point.

But as a technology, it is nothing short of amazing. 500 miles, no
pollution, probably very quiet as well.
 
These smaller electric commercial aircraft should consider adding a towed take-off vehicle to get them up to speed without using any of their own energy.

Recharging is no problem to a ground vehicle and modern electric vehicles can have enormous pulling/towing torque in a small package.
 
I get where they're going with this, but frankly an electric plane just seems like a bad idea. Those batteries are heavy and scale dont work with air travel. Weight quickly becomes an issue.

this is one of those industries where hydrogen would make a huge impact.
A lightening strike could also fry the engines and the batteries.
 
Do you guys think they need active battery protection from cold?
If the battery requires to kept warm by a heating device,
I would think that it would create a dangerous breakage point.

But as a technology, it is nothing short of amazing. 500 miles, no
pollution, probably very quiet as well.
Absolutely. At a cruising altitude of 35,000 ft the temperature is typically between -40° and -51°C (-40° and -60°F).
 
Looks like a great potential product. It has some way to come ... but we all know how technology progresses. 500 miles is already a long way, and it will be 1,000 miles in no time.

Funny that the video doesn't show the actual landing. From the bounce it looks like it hit the deck!
 
These smaller electric commercial aircraft should consider adding a towed take-off vehicle to get them up to speed without using any of their own energy.

Recharging is no problem to a ground vehicle and modern electric vehicles can have enormous pulling/towing torque in a small package.

Or a launching system. Works well for gliders. But I would imagine it's probably a bit scary for most passengers!
 
Considering safety requirements for additional fuel in case of emergency detours or prolonged waiting times for landing you’d be lucky to get 250 miles in one of these legally.

Take the train…
 
My idea to help this sort of thing along is, a drone sled with a much bigger battery that lifts it up to operating height and speed, the plane’s engines then wind up to prove everything’s working, it gets let go, then the drone returns to the airport for recharging. That should double the range at least, maybe more depending on how good the glide angle is. Get a big enough airport with enough solar panels and the fact that on sunny days the fuel is basically free, and it could be viable.

For safety, a hybrid version with an emergency fuel driven engine and enough gas in the tank to get out of trouble could also be a viable option. That could also be viable for returning from airports without chargers.
 
Does south Florida even still exist?

As for, "reached an altitude of 3,500 feet", Whoo Hoo..Commercial airliners cruise at 35,000+ feet. Routinely, day in, day out.

So no, not by 2028, and even by then, the FAA isn't going to let you have a flying car.

That's assuming of course the FAA still exists if a certain, "sociopath to be named later", doesn't win the 2024 election.
 
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