Elon Musk makes $41 billion offer to buy Twitter

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Squid Surprise

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I do not even know what scotus is, I do not live in US and just wonder how the US political correctness and all this emotional baggage will affect rest of the world which uses social media. If there still be check for the violence and fact correctness to reduce amount of BS people of power often write, then I don't care.
Way too often people attacking verbally other claims it is a free speech statement. Obviously, they are using 'free speech' flag to cover whatever they wants, but good to see it is not mean 'I'm free to do anything without consequences'.
SCOTUS = Supreme Court Of The United States... Google is your friend :)
 

Plutoisaplanet

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I don't get how the right cheers him on (you really think he will reinstate Trumpy?? :rolleyes: the two hate each other - there's no way Musky will reinstate Trumpy), but I do get how the left wants to prevent his outright manipulations of the market.
Just on this specific point, I don’t think they hate each other at all. Sure there’s tons they disagree on, but as President, Trump would come to Musk’s rocket launches from time to time even at the end of his term, and highlighted SpaceX. And he did talk about how Elon/Tesla was successful in interviews. If Trump disliked Musk, he would talk about him completely differently regardless of his success.

Meanwhile Musk mostly didn’t talk about Trump, and that’s definitely a much better attitude than he holds toward Biden. He has vaguely referenced Twitter banning Trump as a company having too much power I think, and even if he hated Trump it has nothing to do with keeping him banned (especially concerning free speech).
 

Squid Surprise

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Elementary mistake - assuming those who aren't liberal support Trump. Objectivity is hard, I understand.
It always amazes me that Americans use the word "Liberal" as if it were some sort of insult...

Do you know what "liberal" actually means?

Being willing to respect or accept behavior or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas.

On second thought... now I begin to see why so many think it's a "bad word"...
 
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Ohnooze

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It always amazes me that Americans use the word "Liberal" as if it were some sort of insult...

Do you know what "liberal" actually means?

Being willing to respect or accept behavior or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas.

  • On second thought... now I begin to see why so many think it's a "bad word"...
That's true. Leftist is more accurate I think.
 

AlaskaGuy

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It always amazes me that Americans use the word "Liberal" as if it were some sort of insult...

Do you know what "liberal" actually means?

Being willing to respect or accept behavior or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas.

  • On second thought... now I begin to see why so many think it's a "bad word"...
I don't call the left liberals. Today's American left is anything but liberal.
 

envirovore

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It always amazes me that Americans use the word "Liberal" as if it were some sort of insult...

Do you know what "liberal" actually means?

Being willing to respect or accept behavior or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas.

  • On second thought... now I begin to see why so many think it's a "bad word"...

I've always found that amusing as well.
 

Squid Surprise

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Personally I find the American right tends to be more into science such as two genders.
Except that SCIENCE tells us it's much more complicated than that...

To be fair... both "liberals" and "righties" are guilty of abusing science... but in the case of gender, the righties are far "more wrong" than the "lefties"...
 

envirovore

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Personally I find the American right tends to be more into science such as two genders.

I don't align myself with either, though no doubt most would call me a liberal/leftist I assume.

I'm registered no party, and my personal beliefs align more with anarcho-collective (with a bit of socialism in regards to medical/health care and advanced education such as college, for example).

Is that realistic in current conditions, probably not, but it's my opinion and I'm entitled to it and don't really care what others may think about it.

I may not agree with others views on things, but that also doesn't mean I don't think they should be denied being able to be healthy and educated should they wish to be and not have the means to otherwise.

Edit: fat thumbs galore!
 

AlaskaGuy

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Except that SCIENCE tells us it's much more complicated than that...

To be fair... both "liberals" and "righties" are guilty of abusing science... but in the case of gender, the righties are far "more wrong" than the "lefties"...
It's pretty simple in regards to genders. If you have a wanker you're a male, it not you're a female. See how easy that is.
 

AlaskaGuy

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Really? I wonder what will happen to someone who compares Musk with Hitler... or who decides to post leaked documents from Tesla....
American left: 'Everyone who I don't agree with is Hitler'. <--- I don't see that being censored. No clue on leaked documents.
 

Squid Surprise

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American left: 'Everyone who I don't agree with is Hitler'. <--- I don't see that being censored. No clue on leaked documents.
I guess you haven't seen my other posts... I'm a Canadian... and it was simply an example...

Freedom of speech is always espoused by those who's opinions are being censored at the time... Musk decries it now because he isn't "free" to say what he wants...

Once he is in charge, however, it might become pretty tempting to eliminate the freedoms of those who disagree with him.

It's kind of how humanity operates... and you do know what happens to those who ignore the past, right?
 

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I also like that people in America think Freedom of Speech applies to users/customers of a privately owned platform or business.

It doesn't mean you can say whatever the hell you want wherever you want. If a business (such as Twitter) decides they don't want certain content on their platform, that's not violating your first amendment rights. That'd a business saying they don't want that in their business space, and they have every right to do so.
A dress code for work is pretty much the same policy and isn't a violation of your freedom of speech, as I'm fairly certain any business wouldn't want someone showing up with a shirt of Jim Jones with the word DRINk in huge letters and Cult Leader written across the top of it (which I find absolutely hilarious, so much so that I bought one).

It's just a business saying "take that sh*t elsewhere, we don't want it here", if you don't like it, make your own business that will support it. You have that right.

All it means is that the government isn't supposed to censor the press regarding criticism of the government and its policies and happenings within it.

How this still so difficult for people to understand by now is beyond me.

Edit: heck, even this site specifically has a rather strict policy regarding word filtering and what they'll allow as far as acceptable content in a post before being removed, and it doesn't take much to have one pulled and get slapped with a warning (having had it happen several times by now).

While I may have thought "wtf, why'd that get pulled when this other comment stayed?" at the time, I also realize that my rights haven't been violated and I just stopped outside the rules laid in place (which I agreed to by registering to post with the site, as everyone does on every site), rules which Techspot have every right to enforce as they see fit.

That's not censorship in the way that all these zealots claim it to be, that's just being a d*ck and violating the agreed upon rules, and having those rules enforced, whether I think they're silly rules or not.
 
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AlaskaGuy

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I also like that people in America think Freedom of Speech applies to users of a privately owned platform or business.

It doesn't mean you can say whatever the hell you want wherever you want. If a business (such as Twitter) decides they don't want certain content on their platform, that's not violating your first amendment rights. That'd a business saying they don't want that in their business space, and they have every right to do so.
A dress code for work is pretty much the same policy and isn't a violation of your freedom of speech, as I'm fairly certain any business wouldn't want someone showing up with a shirt of Jim Jones with the word DRINk in huge letters and Cult Leader written across the top of it (which I find absolutely hilarious, so much so that I bought one).

It's just a business saying "take that sh*t elsewhere, we don't want it here", if you don't like it, make your own business that will support it. You have that right.

All it means is that the government isn't supposed to censor the press regarding criticism of the government and its policies and happenings within it.

How this still so difficult for people to understand by now is beyond me.
Google 'Section 230'.
 
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