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FBI arrests 74 email scammers in worldwide operation

By midian182 · 40 replies
Jun 12, 2018
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  1. TheBigT42

    TheBigT42 TS Maniac Posts: 281   +168

    Scammers fake the caller ID
    MaikuTech likes this.
  2. wiyosaya

    wiyosaya TS Evangelist Posts: 3,177   +1,621

    Some are, however, your post sounds like it comes from another expert that did not read my post beyond the first paragraph.

    Maybe this will help all the rest of the experts out there since I seem to need to repeat myself to the TL;DR crowds with a two-paragraph post

    The message was such that you could pick up and press a key, and you could call them back on what might be a working number.

    There are several parts to social engineering. One is to build the trust of your intended target - which the message attempts to do.

    However, the scammers need a valid contact number so that if someone trusts them with the message the delivered, which is what, IMO, they were attempting to do, build trust, that you can call them back on a working number otherwise, their scam does not work and they would be among the totally clueless scammers that sometimes try to run scams that do not work because they are flawed to begin with.

    Maybe it is fake, but they are counting on people trusting them and calling them back on a working number. I would rather count on my skills at recognizing a scam and at recognizing an attempt at social engineering by people who think they are too f'ing smart for anyone to notice that they are scammers, and that they will get away with it.

    And another part is that scammers realize that many people screen their calls by letting answering machines take the call. If they want their scam to work, they need you to trust them, and a working number where you can call them back also serves to build that trust.

    And before you go off on the "do not call registry is only for complaining about legitimate businesses" just like the other poster did, what "legitimate business" breaks a well-known law like this?

    I suspect that any of the busts in the past few years happened because the scammers had real lines with real numbers that people decided to report. Not all caller ID is faked.

    Last, I'll add as an edit:
    Scammers are likely aware that many phone companies, including the one I use, are screening caller ID information and transmitting caller ID data such as "likely scam call" instead of the fake caller ID data. This is even more reason for too f'ing smart scammers to use a real number; otherwise, their scam has much less of a chance for success.

    My apologies if you do not like the tone of my posts. However, what I said is to me common sense that really needs no defending and just baffles me why others seem to not get it.
    Last edited: Jun 13, 2018
  3. TheBigT42

    TheBigT42 TS Maniac Posts: 281   +168

    You are the people they are looking for
  4. m3tavision

    m3tavision TS Booster Posts: 110   +65

    Chronology matters, so after what..? (afterwards..?)
  5. wiyosaya

    wiyosaya TS Evangelist Posts: 3,177   +1,621

    Sorry it sounds like you are feeling hurt! However, your feelings are not my responsibility.

    IMO, they are looking for anyone they can dupe. If its just blown off as fake news, and not reported, the chances they are going to dupe someone are even greater. I'd rather take crap like this from you after having reported them in an effort to rid everyone of scum like them than sit back and yell fake news and not do anything about it.

    As I see it, It is part of the problem today. People are less and less willing to stand up for what is right even if it means being wrong sometimes.

    One thing is for sure, the scum won't get taken down without complaints.

    Cheers! :)
    Last edited: Jun 17, 2018
  6. Squid Surprise

    Squid Surprise TS Evangelist Posts: 2,161   +1,178

    After the post you replied to obviously....
  7. MaikuTech

    MaikuTech TS Guru Posts: 906   +162

    And no moderators to step in and put a halt to the bickering.
    I'm really wondering if techspot staff will enforce the rules they set in place or let things happen until......
  8. mailpup

    mailpup TS Special Forces Posts: 7,293   +576

    Moderators have already deleted some posts in this thread. Maybe you didn't know about them because they were... deleted. If you wanted more, well, judgement call. Some probably feel I delete too much. You can't please everyone.
  9. m3tavision

    m3tavision TS Booster Posts: 110   +65

    Sorry, but I am an adult, have been on forums for 25+ years & moderated many over my life time.... so why not just mute the people who take a quote out of context, while telling them they are stupid..?

    Such tact is illogical and meant to disrupt.
  10. Squid Surprise

    Squid Surprise TS Evangelist Posts: 2,161   +1,178

    So you've moderated many forums... I'm sure you must have LOVED when people posted about how terrible a moderator you were in a public forum instead of messaging you privately... Yep, I'm sure that endeared you to those people immensely...

    Perhaps those people you want muted are actually the ones who are correct after all?
  11. m3tavision

    m3tavision TS Booster Posts: 110   +65

    Squid... it seems you can't help yourself and are purposely threadcrapping again..
    Is this who you really are to this community, someone who indiscriminately quotes, then declares those you quote, are not up to your lower standards..?
  12. Dustyn

    Dustyn TS Booster Posts: 83   +29

    So many drama queens in this thread lol
  13. Squid Surprise

    Squid Surprise TS Evangelist Posts: 2,161   +1,178

    I’m the one “threadcrapping”?!?
    You’re the one insulting the moderator.... perhaps your rage would be better placed by looking inward...
  14. m3tavision

    m3tavision TS Booster Posts: 110   +65

    Oh, I see now.
    You are a cupcake & believe that making a suggestion (to muting trolls like you), is somehow insulting a moderator..? It is a suggestion. There is no rage on these forums. Are you unhinged?

    It's obviously that you didn't like my suggestion though, because if they muted you.... you wouldn't be able to rage ?
  15. Squid Surprise

    Squid Surprise TS Evangelist Posts: 2,161   +1,178

    Yep... full of boundless rage... I understand, you’re still embarrassed that you didn’t see blatant sarcasm and are angry that you’ve been humiliated on a public forum...it’s not the end of the world, I suggest moving on... by the way, you’re the one who has completely derailed the topic of this thread - I believe that makes YOU the threadcrapper.... but feel free to carry on, battles of wits against unarmed opponents are quite enjoyable for me :)
  16. mailpup

    mailpup TS Special Forces Posts: 7,293   +576

    Time to end the personal remarks and get back on topic. Thank you.
    Squid Surprise likes this.

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