FBI can't access Dayton shooter's phone

[lipe123]

While getting into the phone might be a good thing it's pretty obvious that these kinds of articles are trying to muddy the waters by diverting the conversation away from gun control but rather steer it towards video games, locked phones or anything else.

 

[J spot]

Oh god, here comes the couch cryptography expert with no formal training in the subject. The only thing clear here is that you are conceited.

How exactly do you go from a "trillion" years to the actual month timeline in the article? No, you are assuming the person has a password that is up to DoD strength standards when in fact a vast majority of passwords are 8 characters or less and often contain PII. I'd expect a dictionary attack to crack the password promptly within a week.

And mind you my expectations are nothing extraordinary. The FBI has had to hire a firm before to crack Apple passwords. No one is saying the direct approach of password matching is always the best one and clearly the tools do exist to greatly speed up the process. Nothing magic about it.

Perhaps take a chill pill next time before you have another conniption. Perhaps don't start your comments off with insulting others.

I don't know, I wasn't trying to be mean, but you truly sound like one of those outraged people who love to be outrage, absolutely love it, even though they know very, very little about a subject. The kind that always have an opinion, and since that opinion makes sense to them, they're convinced they know what they're talking about.

It's a concept that I don't think you're capable of understanding if you're such a person.

Even just the tone, using sort of filler words like, "Take a chill pill," "Oh god."

Running around in circles really saying nothing. I asked you if you think that not being able to crack a 16 digit password equals incompetence. Simple question, but you answer back, "Irrelevant... I don't get paid to crack passwords... it wasn't part of my major at the university... I'd expect someone who majored in it at the FBI level..."

Very pompous sounding. I wonder how it translates to other subjects, and other parts of your life.

I mean you wrote, "I'd expect a dictionary attack to crack the password promptly within a week." And such a phrase is very telling. For one it would take minutes for the FBI to crack a password that's in a database with all the words ever known from every language. But you're so pompously outraged, and the tone is that of "The FBI is so incompetent because they can't even crack a password using a dictionary attack."

Just your general way of thinking. A rational person would at least consider that the FBI tried a dictionary attack, not just because it's so fast, but something so basic. But in your pompous tone, and I don't mean any disrespect by that, in your pompous tone you're sure that the silly FBI couldn't even run a dictionary attack.

 

[Evernessince]

I don't know, I wasn't trying to be mean, but you truly sound like one of those outraged people who love to be outrage, absolutely love it, even though they know very, very little about a subject. The kind that always have an opinion, and since that opinion makes sense to them, they're convinced they know what they're talking about.

It's a concept that I don't think you're capable of understanding if you're such a person.

Even just the tone, using sort of filler words like, "Take a chill pill," "Oh god."

Running around in circles really saying nothing. I asked you if you think that not being able to crack a 16 digit password equals incompetence. Simple question, but you answer back, "Irrelevant... I don't get paid to crack passwords... it wasn't part of my major at the university... I'd expect someone who majored in it at the FBI level..."

Very pompous sounding. I wonder how it translates to other subjects, and other parts of your life.

I mean you wrote, "I'd expect a dictionary attack to crack the password promptly within a week." And such a phrase is very telling. For one it would take minutes for the FBI to crack a password that's in a database with all the words ever known from every language. But you're so pompously outraged, and the tone is that of "The FBI is so incompetent because they can't even crack a password using a dictionary attack."

Just your general way of thinking. A rational person would at least consider that the FBI tried a dictionary attack, not just because it's so fast, but something so basic. But in your pompous tone, and I don't mean any disrespect by that, in your pompous tone you're sure that the silly FBI couldn't even run a dictionary attack.

Do you have anything to add to the argument or are you just going to make more personal attacks?

All this comment proves is that you can't help but on others for no reason.

 

[Markoni35]

What a lie. Everything is full of security holes, everything is hackable, but now when you really need something, it's not possible. I will agree with somebody above, someone was bribed to give government money to one of those Israeli companies. Because I guess USA has too much money and has to give it away to always the same country.

 

[Darth Shiv]

What happened to that Israeli company the FBI was using regularly? They cracked the iPhone pretty easily ... did they raise their rates too high?

Well either the exploit they used was closed or they are playing dumb.