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Haha, nice to see the Noctua NH-U14S win that, as it did another heatsink round-up at Tom's Hardware recently. This is cooler I had elected for my latest build and I'll keep heartily recommending it.
Solid review nonetheless.
In the future it might help to make it look more professional if you'd include a specific section with a few more details about the testing methodology such as case/other hardware, thermal paste, where/how you measured the sound...
Most people won't read it but it's good documentation.
My main PC has had water cooling for two years, while my HTPC has had it for 1 year. The reason for the water cooling was quiet it down and to add more room. A decent air cooler is super larger, and takes a lot of space. Also any decent air cooler will usually have a large loud fan. With water cooling I was able to gain improved cooling, without the need to take up large amounts of space, and the HTPC is much quieter.You want quality water cooling components IMO. Plus, WCing a HTPC just isnt necessary.
Never seen a water cooling setup leak so far. I've had water cooling setups for nearly 10 years, and they never leak. Water pump failure yes. Pinched tubing yes. Clogged tubing yes. The only place it could leak from is the radiator, and I've yet to see it happen. If you're really anal, you could keep a decent amount of the components outside of the case, like the radiator and pump.A good water cooler is only good if after 2 years it hasn't accumulated any corrosion or produced any leaking. And most reviews are from people who haven't owned the product long enough to know if it is any good. Most coolers fall victims to corrosion and produce leaking that may easily kill the system. And even if it takes 3 years for one to corrode to that point, I wouldn't want it in my system.
The Noctua NH-D14 is also very very large, and dumps all the heat in it's surroundings. Where as a water cooling setup will remove the heat directly outside the case. It's also listed as $95 on Newegg, which is very expensive for an air cooler.And why bother, Noctua NH-D14 is just as quiet as any water cooler, it makes zero noise.
I think you have that backward, as the larger the fan the less RPM's needed to move air. It is the smaller fans that are the noisiest. Besides those large fans you speak of are also needed on water cooling setups.Also any decent air cooler will usually have a large loud fan.
At 120mm, it's all in the fan. At low speed a 120mm fan is nearly silent, but crank them to max speed and they get noisy. To reach the efficiency of a water cooler, those air coolers need the fans at max.I think you have that backward, as the larger the fan the less RPM's needed to move air. It is the smaller fans that are the noisiest. Besides those large fans you speak of are also needed on water cooling setups.
Could you please recheck FRIO OCK?
I am running Intel Core2Quad Q6600 at stock 2.4GHz in an avg ambient room temp of 30-33 with idle temps between 31-33C and Max temp while playing Crysis 2 and 3 is 54C with fan at stock speed of around 1200-1400 rpm
If you really wanna know what max temp your PC can handle, then get Prime95 and run the "In-Place Large FFT's" test, which creates a boat load of heat. Nothing will get your CPU hotter then that test, but it's also a very dangerous test. Crysis 3 is pretty good CPU test, but not as good as Prime 95. BTW, Prime95 on my HTPC with AMD Phenom II X4 820 2.8Ghz gets 42C with 10 minutes of Prime95 on that setting, while typing this. Which is pretty good for a cheap water cooling setup.
Could you please recheck FRIO OCK?
I am running Intel Core2Quad Q6600 at stock 2.4GHz in an avg ambient room temp of 30-33 with idle temps between 31-33C and Max temp while playing Crysis 2 and 3 is 54C with fan at stock speed of around 1200-1400 rpm
Comments are hilarious as always. Steve must emit an aura of "hate on me, everyone!!".
I have NH-U12P SE2, and I purchased it based on the fact that an $80 air cooler out-performed $120+ closed-loop systems and was quieter.
My HTPC has another Noctua in it with a 140mm fan. I'd like to know how a water cooling setup with fan + pump can be quieter than me, with ULNA.
Are you suggesting that because you have a 95 watt processor that’s not overclocked our results are wrong? As the testing notes pointed out each cooler was tested 3 times anyway which included being re-seated each time. I would question your own results as there is no way these air-coolers work at ambient room temperature, the computer would have to be turned off :S
You say your system runs at 54 degrees under load, that’s 10% cooler than the results we got. Yet our processor has a 37% higher thermal design power rating.
There are too many variables to take into account to compare a single cooler in isolation against a completely different system. Heatspreader size and underlying die layout are going to give variances in results*. Assuming that ambient conditions are equal (which they wont be - temp, humidity, chassis cooling, general airflow, heat map of the socket area) you would still need other heatsinks to test in order to gauge their effectiveness on the same system, since the LGA 775 (784mm²) and LGA 2011 (1440mm²) are fundamentally different in too many waysI never implied that your results are wrong....just felt bad that the cooler I bought (first one [and probably the only one] in India) performed bad in the test while it is performing to my satisfaction in my workstation and hoping some to see it better
Yes but only on the Archon SB-E X2. Maybe it's just an optical illusion but those pictures appear to show the fans pulling from the back and pushing towards the front of the mobo.
So no consistent 1 paste was used? A variety of pastes were used? I could see this skew the data a little bit. Is there a review available on the different pastes?Each cooler was tested with the supplied thermal paste and fan. The only thing we didn't go into great detail about was the sound testing.
I agree, the best cooler is still unknown. I still don't know which cooler is best, when different fans and thermal compound is used. Sure we have a good idea which is best using the supplied fan and compound. But to be honest that doesn't tell the whole story.So no consistent 1 paste was used? A variety of pastes were used? I could see this skew the data a little bit. Is there a review available on the different pastes?
Using a variety of pastes would also skew the data. The review is a "run what you brung" comparison. If a particular cooler is shipped with some generic goop (*cough*Xigmatek*cough) in a sachet in order to keep the price low, then adding an aftermarket TIM syringe to the cost inflates the price....a price that is part of the scoring system of the article. If the object of the exercise was to test the best heatsink design rather than the retail cooler package, then I could see the validity in using an aftermarket TIM like IC7 (as well as a couple of Sanyo SanAce 150 cfm fans).So no consistent 1 paste was used? A variety of pastes were used? I could see this skew the data a little bit. Is there a review available on the different pastes?
That becomes a complex testing criteria, especially if you factor in absolute cooling ability versus produced noise since both have an impact of the end usage profile.I agree, the best cooler is still unknown. I still don't know which cooler is best, when different fans and thermal compound is used. Sure we have a good idea which is best using the supplied fan and compound. But to be honest that doesn't tell the whole story.
I agree, the best cooler is still unknown. I still don't know which cooler is best, when different fans and thermal compound is used. Sure we have a good idea which is best using the supplied fan and compound. But to be honest that doesn't tell the whole story.