lithiumdeuterid
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I'm glad to see not everyone is hopelessly Puritanical about sex (and personal privacy, for that matter).
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spartanslayer
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Parents are responsible for their kids. They are in charge of every aspect of their kids lives. They are the ones responsible for their kids thoughts and acts. Therfore, they should talk to their children about everything.
Newmy51, I hope you don't have children. And I pray that if you do, you will realize your folly, and change your views on porn. If you don't, your children will grow up to be rotten people, who may die from aids, or hiv. I hope that won't happen. And please keep your language clean.
Lithiumdeuterid, do you really think violence is worse than porn? And do you think violence is evil? I'm guessing you are a pacifist, and hate the military.
Newmy51, I hope you don't have children. And I pray that if you do, you will realize your folly, and change your views on porn. If you don't, your children will grow up to be rotten people, who may die from aids, or hiv. I hope that won't happen. And please keep your language clean.
Lithiumdeuterid, do you really think violence is worse than porn? And do you think violence is evil? I'm guessing you are a pacifist, and hate the military.
AIDs vs HIV and then some
Mr. Christian HIV leads to AIDS you die of AIDS not HIV it is not and either or thing.
I am 21 years old finishing my BSc in geophysics I have been dating the same girl for 2 years and intend to marry her shortly after we finish our degrees. I have looked at and ocasionally still look at porn it does not make me a rotten or unfaithful person. My parents howerver are like you in their beliefs and my Dad with a Masters in comp sci and BSc in Mathematics was probably better at logging stuff then you will ever will be. Having said that I spoofed my packets edited the regestry and cleared my trail so well he never clued in. The internet is just too hard to stop. I hope someday you have kids so they learn to sneak around you and build distrust, when my kids will be given trust and shown propper role modles. Sex before marriage is not bad it is a choice that should be taken seriously and if done, done safely. Giving your children the tools they need to make this choice is the job of the parents. Blocking them from the world only makes them unable to make this choice wisely. When they get free and they will, they will be more likely to get their 16 year cousin pregnant then anything else.
As for this stat you throw around 2% of Americans are atheist that is bull. Where the hell did you get those numbers in 2001 14.1% were Agnostic, Atheist or "no religion". No religion being agnostics who were not smart enought to know they wer agnostic. In Canada where only 44% of us believed that a personal god exists we have sex on average 2 years later in life then you guys do. So how treat your kids is more important then making them believe that if they have consenting smart sex they will burn forever.
Well I am back to studing for my final so I can make some money to support my future kids porn habits.
Mr. Christian HIV leads to AIDS you die of AIDS not HIV it is not and either or thing.
I am 21 years old finishing my BSc in geophysics I have been dating the same girl for 2 years and intend to marry her shortly after we finish our degrees. I have looked at and ocasionally still look at porn it does not make me a rotten or unfaithful person. My parents howerver are like you in their beliefs and my Dad with a Masters in comp sci and BSc in Mathematics was probably better at logging stuff then you will ever will be. Having said that I spoofed my packets edited the regestry and cleared my trail so well he never clued in. The internet is just too hard to stop. I hope someday you have kids so they learn to sneak around you and build distrust, when my kids will be given trust and shown propper role modles. Sex before marriage is not bad it is a choice that should be taken seriously and if done, done safely. Giving your children the tools they need to make this choice is the job of the parents. Blocking them from the world only makes them unable to make this choice wisely. When they get free and they will, they will be more likely to get their 16 year cousin pregnant then anything else.
As for this stat you throw around 2% of Americans are atheist that is bull. Where the hell did you get those numbers in 2001 14.1% were Agnostic, Atheist or "no religion". No religion being agnostics who were not smart enought to know they wer agnostic. In Canada where only 44% of us believed that a personal god exists we have sex on average 2 years later in life then you guys do. So how treat your kids is more important then making them believe that if they have consenting smart sex they will burn forever.
Well I am back to studing for my final so I can make some money to support my future kids porn habits.
meatologist
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I thought this was TECHSPOT
If you want to talk bollocks - go to Yahoo Groups!
sex is good, porn is good, violence is good, death is good.
whats the meaning of life? To DIE
NOW PLEASE SHUT UP
If you want to talk bollocks - go to Yahoo Groups!
sex is good, porn is good, violence is good, death is good.
whats the meaning of life? To DIE
NOW PLEASE SHUT UP
spartanslayer
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1083175. Well I can prove you wrong. I am 17. I have been raised under the conditions I described, and I have no desire to look at porn, or be involved in any sexual activity. I won't have sex until I am married. And I don't sneak around my dad's back either. I intend to raise my kids in the same way, and hopefully have the same results. Apparently you have no idea what kids do. You should talk to some. And not having sex before marriage is the most awesome thing possible. My uncle was 46 when he got married (for the first and only time) and he was still a virgin. Sex before marriage is dangerous, and ruins your first adventure in marriage.
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I see you do have a point not everyone looks at porn you certainly deny it and many others do as well. I would say that this has more to do with the way you were raised rather then the logger on your machine. Kids will get porn if they really want to some way or another. If you want to mold your kids diferently then example is a more powerful tool then stalking them on internet. For the same reson more and more kids are having sex at an earlier age Mom says no but has gone through three marraiges and has her boyfriend over every night. Presenting sex as a choice with both sides and with your example to guide them is what a parent is meant to do. My family will have loving parents teaching them what is right and wrong and a free internet after they get old enough to make up their own minds on issiues.
I see you do have a point not everyone looks at porn you certainly deny it and many others do as well. I would say that this has more to do with the way you were raised rather then the logger on your machine. Kids will get porn if they really want to some way or another. If you want to mold your kids diferently then example is a more powerful tool then stalking them on internet. For the same reson more and more kids are having sex at an earlier age Mom says no but has gone through three marraiges and has her boyfriend over every night. Presenting sex as a choice with both sides and with your example to guide them is what a parent is meant to do. My family will have loving parents teaching them what is right and wrong and a free internet after they get old enough to make up their own minds on issiues.
spartanslayer
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I recognize your sense in that, my parents trust me to use the internet for only good purposes, and I fulfill that trust. My parents have never divorced, and although I'm adopted, they trained my by example. I have no problems with the way you would train you kids, just with what you think is right. If you think porn is ok, I can't change your mind for you, I can only hope you will show your kids both sides of the issue, and let them choose. Good luck.
lithiumdeuterid
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spartanslayer:
Yes, I really do think violence is worse than pornography. Most people (and every major religion) agrees with me on that. Violence, by definition, is dangerous. Porn is not dangerous. Violence begets violence. Porn only begets sex. If you can think of anything more damaging to a kid than violence, well, think again.
I suppose you think porn is 'sinful', right? Isn't violence a worse sin? "Thou shalt not kill" is one of the commandments. There's also the "Thou shalt not commit adultery" commandment, but porn is most definitely not adultery. The vast majority of porn stars aren't married, plus, you aren't actually having sex with them. The church may frown upon pornography, it's true. But I challenge you to show me where the bible actually says it's a bad thing.
You have no desire to have sex at all? What the hell have they DONE to you!? Destroying someone's sexual desire (it's been proven that even young children have sexual thoughts) is one of the most evil things you can do to them. Suppression of sexual desire is grossly unnatural and an abasement of everything that makes us human. I think your parents have really screwed you over, and I pity you.
1083175:
There is a character called a comma. Learn to use it. It's right next to the period key, and makes your sentences a whole lot more readable. Despite that, I agree with your points.
meatologist:
Conversations and arguments wander. It's part of the nature of communication. It would be very impractical to create new threads (or jump to entirely new message boards) every time the topic changed. If you don't want to read it, don't read it. Nobody's forcing you to. I don't know why you're even posting anything at all.
Yes, I really do think violence is worse than pornography. Most people (and every major religion) agrees with me on that. Violence, by definition, is dangerous. Porn is not dangerous. Violence begets violence. Porn only begets sex. If you can think of anything more damaging to a kid than violence, well, think again.
I suppose you think porn is 'sinful', right? Isn't violence a worse sin? "Thou shalt not kill" is one of the commandments. There's also the "Thou shalt not commit adultery" commandment, but porn is most definitely not adultery. The vast majority of porn stars aren't married, plus, you aren't actually having sex with them. The church may frown upon pornography, it's true. But I challenge you to show me where the bible actually says it's a bad thing.
You have no desire to have sex at all? What the hell have they DONE to you!? Destroying someone's sexual desire (it's been proven that even young children have sexual thoughts) is one of the most evil things you can do to them. Suppression of sexual desire is grossly unnatural and an abasement of everything that makes us human. I think your parents have really screwed you over, and I pity you.
1083175:
There is a character called a comma. Learn to use it. It's right next to the period key, and makes your sentences a whole lot more readable. Despite that, I agree with your points.
meatologist:
Conversations and arguments wander. It's part of the nature of communication. It would be very impractical to create new threads (or jump to entirely new message boards) every time the topic changed. If you don't want to read it, don't read it. Nobody's forcing you to. I don't know why you're even posting anything at all.
spartanslayer
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Lithiumdeuterid.
I didn't say I had no desire to have sex. Believe me I do. But I'm content to wait until I'm married. Also, the bible says not to murder. Violence isn't nescesarily murder. War is not murder. Self Defense is not murder. Are you saying the whole army is a bunch of murderers? You said porn begats sex. So are all of your kids going to have sex when they are 14? You need to think about that.
I didn't say I had no desire to have sex. Believe me I do. But I'm content to wait until I'm married. Also, the bible says not to murder. Violence isn't nescesarily murder. War is not murder. Self Defense is not murder. Are you saying the whole army is a bunch of murderers? You said porn begats sex. So are all of your kids going to have sex when they are 14? You need to think about that.
howard_hopkinso
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Please please, will one of the mods close this thread?
It`s been going on far too long, and is completely off topic.
Regards Howard
It`s been going on far too long, and is completely off topic.
Regards Howard
SNGX1275
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Alright guys this has gone far enough.
If you must discuss this, do not do it in a firefox thread, create one in Meeting Spot.
I'll warn you though, politics and religion threads generally don't last long on these forums before they get locked or deleted. Most of the time they start going towards personal attacks, like this one has, when that happens, thread is over.
If you feel like you must continue the personal attacks and debates, we have a Private Message system where you guys can talk without littering up the forums.
If you must discuss this, do not do it in a firefox thread, create one in Meeting Spot.
I'll warn you though, politics and religion threads generally don't last long on these forums before they get locked or deleted. Most of the time they start going towards personal attacks, like this one has, when that happens, thread is over.
If you feel like you must continue the personal attacks and debates, we have a Private Message system where you guys can talk without littering up the forums.
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