Former Intel CEO Pat Gelsinger invests in Nvidia following market dip, calls DeepSeek market reaction "wrong"

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Contrarian View The revelation that development costs for DeepSeek's AI assistant came in at only $6 million sent shockwaves through the stock market this week, particularly affecting companies heavily invested in AI. Nvidia saw its shares tumble alongside other tech stocks over concerns that the demand for Nvidia's chips would decrease if AI models can be developed more cost-effectively. However, not everyone shares this pessimistic outlook. Former Intel CEO Pat Gelsinger offers a different perspective on the situation, arguing that the demand for high-performance computing in AI development is likely to remain strong, despite the emergence of cheaper alternatives.

"The market reaction is wrong, lowering the cost of AI will expand the market," Gelsinger said on social media. "Today I am an Nvidia and AI stock buyer and happy to benefit from lower prices."

Gelsinger argues that the response to DeepSeek overlooks three crucial lessons from the past five decades of computing history.

First, Gelsinger emphasizes that lowering the cost of computing resources expands the market rather than contracts it. He draws parallels to previous technological advancements like PCs and mobile devices, where increasing affordability led to widespread adoption. He believes that making AI more accessible will integrate it into a broader range of applications, ultimately driving growth in the industry.

Second, Gelsinger highlights the importance of constraints in fostering innovation. He points out that the DeepSeek team, faced with export restrictions and limited resources, managed to create a world-class solution at a fraction of the usual cost. This ingenuity, Gelsinger notes, aligns with insights from computer science pioneers, who often achieved their best work under significant limitations.

Third, Gelsinger advocates for openness in AI development. He expresses concern over the trend toward proprietary AI models, arguing that open ecosystems consistently lead to better outcomes. "Open wins every time it is given a proper shot," he said. The ex-Intel boss believes that DeepSeek's open approach serves as a reminder of the value of shared innovation in the AI field.

But the big reveal came when he said that engineers at his startup, Gloo, are running R1 today. "They could've run o1 - well, they can only access o1, through the APIs."

One of the key advantages of DeepSeek's AI model is its ability to run on local devices, including personal computers and mobile phones, in contrast to ChatGPT's latest models, which are exclusively cloud-based. The local deployment option offers users greater control over their data and reduces reliance on internet connectivity.

However, the initial training of such advanced AI models still requires substantial computational power. Despite DeepSeek's innovations in model efficiency, major AI companies like Anthropic and OpenAI possess significant computing resources allowing them to further scale up their models and increase the number of parameters while leveraging their infrastructure.

In other words, while some companies like DeepSeek focus on efficiency and doing more with less, others leverage their vast resources to push the boundaries of model size and complexity. Both approaches have their merits and contribute to the advancement of AI technology.

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Clearly Pat doesn't understand how a business works or should work (the state of Intel currently should make that abundantly clear) otherwise he'd be able to identify that businesses will want to cut costs, and if there is more of a push on efficiency and innovation, then it means they can do more with their existing hardware, or spend less when they invest, especially the publicly traded ones where the investors do not care about anything but profit and anything to boost that (like not spending even more on another round of cards they might not need) will very much be pushed for
 
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Last person I would listen to. Pat needs to go fade into history so his "legacy" can be eroded by the sands of time

Was going to say basically the same thing. Maybe he's right in this instance (maybe not), but I certainly wouldn't take anything he says as gospel.
 
Pat has nailed it in one. Business users define "Best" as "most affordable for their needs". Chinese democratization of AI will rapidly drive integration into a wider range of applications, driven by small business users who can now afford access using laptops and desktops instead of requiring MegaCorp sized data centers to house operations and pay for a Nuclear Power Plant's worth of energy.
This does bode badly for margins for NVIDIA, MSFT, Musk and others throwing 10's to 100's of billions at new facilities expecting outsized returns. Note that IBM did not stop selling Mainframes the day after they introduced the PC.
 
It did not cost China $5-6 million to develop this:

https://thedrilldown.com/podcast-episodes/schweizer-is-chinas-deepseek-a-deep-con/

From the article:

Various American-based companies, including Microsoft, Alphabet (Google) and OpenAI have been spending hundreds of billions on AI products, and along comes DeepSeek, which is owned by a Chinese hedge fund, claiming they built DeepSeek for just $5-$6 million.

“Well, it turns out that figure is not accurate,” Schweizer says DeepSeek excluded costs related to prior research, experiments on architectures, algorithms, or data. “They also excluded the cost of the salaries of their employees and other fixed capital expenditures,” Schweizer says. “The numbers aren’t even accurate themselves.” Little is known about the hedge fund behind it, a company called High-Flyer.

Also, the idea that they developed this without using top of line H100’s is patently false:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/tech...s-and-elon-musk-says-it-s-obvious/ar-AA1xY3ZN
 
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