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FreeSync monitors now available, and they're cheaper than G-Sync equivalents

By Scorpus · 59 replies
Mar 6, 2015
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  1. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 11,266   +4,935

    Why are you turning the explanation of my first comment into a factual report for my first comment? The only thing I am sure about is my thoughts and what I was meaning when I commented. Furthermore opening my big mouth and saying things is how I learn from mistakes. If you can prove me wrong then by all means do so. If you are not willing to try or get irritated by the thought of needing to, then don't step in at all.
     
  2. hahahanoobs

    hahahanoobs TS Evangelist Posts: 2,448   +865

    Really?! I proved you wrong with a TON of information on G-Sync (including mobile) in my first reply that you ignored and came back with some crap about FreeSync and more crap about what you "thought" was right. If you are really open to learning, then you should do some more research rather than going into defensive mode when someone questions your "thoughts".

    You came across like Puiu did, when he tried to school me on FreeSync. He admittedly said he didn't know when tearing occurred which happens to be a rather big part about the tech, but still wanted to argue with me about it by using speculation as fact and then things got ugly.

    Update: DVI and HDMI won't work simply because they don't support refresh rates higher than 60Hz.
     
    Last edited: Mar 9, 2015
  3. Puiu

    Puiu TS Evangelist Posts: 3,367   +1,819

    I was going to be silent, but since you decided to add me in your little discussion then tell me when did I say anything about tearing ? and nobody said anything about cable bandwidth, we all know that the HDMI and DVI interfaces don't support variable refresh rates.

    And yes I did "school" you about freesync because you do not understand what it is and how it works. you still haven't said anything about the "red flags". And I never argue with "speculation". It's you who has weird preconceptions.

    As you can see, you only manage to get on people's nerves with your comments.

    things are simple: both freesync and g-sync are hardware implemented:
    - freesync requires: a new scaler, DP1.2a/1.3 capable monitor and a GPU with DP1.2a/1.3.
    this means that freesync will have less support early, but because it's free and because it's an industry standard it will be easily implemented in future products.
    - G-Sync: uses a module that allows variable refresh rates on older scalers and GPUs.
    G-Sync is more expensive to implement but offers better performance and has better support with older GPUs. The higher price means that only high end gaming monitors will implement G-Sync.
     
    Last edited: Mar 10, 2015
  4. GSYNC works in only specific laptops that are compatible with VBLANK and have a built-in DisplayPort path between the graphics card on the panel. Nvidia modified this unique hardware configuration and optimized it for GSYNC. Desktop monitors use a scaler, which requires the use of the GSYNC module in order to allow for the pauses between frame rendering that is necessary for VBLANK to work properly. If you really want to rant and get pissed off at someone, aim your hatred at AMD. AMD lied from day one about FreeSync. It's now March 2015 and still no FreeSync monitors are available. During CES 2015, AMD showed off some FreeSync monitors that actually exhibited screen tearing and noticeable lag. Guess what - FreeSync is a failure! AMD not only lied about FreeSync, they can't even get it to work like they said. Haters are gonna hate. The fact is that GSYNC works well and is available today. If you want to complain about price, then get a damn job, or a better paying one. I own three GSYNC monitors and LOVE THEM!! They perform flawlessly and give me what I want today - dynamic refresh rates in a every single game I play. Bu-bye to screen tearing and stuttering :p
     
  5. Uh, WRONG! I have several monitors that are able to achieve 144Hz with a DVI-D cable.
     
  6. The author's conversion rate is all screwed up. An Asus ROG Swift sold in the US right now is $800, or £531. The FreeSync BenQ costs £497, which is $750. So, the savings is not that much to justify a tussle about pricing. Take into consideration that GSYNC is superior to FreeSync in overall performance (tearing, stuttering and lag on FreeSync demo monitors were all noted at GDC 2015). AMD may or may not work out the bugs with the official driver release later this month. Only time will tell if FreeSync will ever be as good as GSYNC. For now, there is really no price advantage to be had. If you want dynamic refresh rates and own an Nvidia card, buy a GSYNC monitor. If you own an AMD card, buy a FreeSync monitor and cross your fingers it performs as it's supposed to...eventually...someday...as we all know AMD's driver development team aren't exactly the sharpest tools in the shed.
     
  7. hahahanoobs

    hahahanoobs TS Evangelist Posts: 2,448   +865

    My apologies. I meant you need DP for G-Sync and FreeSync to work.
     
  8. The nvidia shill is strong with this one. VESA Adaptive Sync is an open and free implementation in the displayport standard, nvidia is prorietary. Since their function is identical it is only a matter of time before the cheaper and free'er alternative wins.
     
  9. The reason why those stores play animated movies on their display wallis not because of purposely using slow animation movies for the TV it is because they cannot show a movie on the display wall that is anything but a general rated movie which 80 to 90% are not, and the majority general rated movies available on store shelves are animated. additionally some places cannot show certain videos on the display wall for licensing reasons. it has to do with the legality and licencing/distribution.
     
  10. Khanonate

    Khanonate TS Booster Posts: 146   +32

    I find it expensive so I'll wait until its cheaper (Which is usually the case with new tech.)
     

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