Game installs of 100GB or larger have now become the standard

[loki1944]

$94 a month doesn't seem like a lot compared to what you are getting especially with a whole household of data users. Hopefully your PC is not one those that uses 100s of watts at idle . The delta difference in cost is probably negligible in the grand scheme of things.

I'll stick to $50 a month for internet without the nightmare that is Verizon.

 

[shark975]

Italy here. 2.5gb@25euros/month, flat, no caps. 980 Pro 1tb for windows, apps and games + 970 evo 1tb, 860 evo 2tb and an hdd 1tb

if you view steam survey italy internet is on average a little faster than america, despite america being 20x larger land to cover and many very very large uninhabited areas etc (america is faster internet than most eu countries of course, for example usa avg speed practically doubles uk, france just not italy), it will be even much worse an American city. 5gb fiber here 25/month and this not a big city. also pay half or less for electricity as italy etc.

 

[shark975]

Well, there's always the FitGirl site. These are compacted (cracked) versions of mainstream games with greatly reduced file sizes but longer decompress times at install time.

If you don't like pirating games, there's nothing to stop you buying the game legitimately and then downloading the FitGirl pack for installation.

Buyer (and downloader) beware.

https://torrentfreak.com/meet-fitgirl-the-repack-queen-of-pirated-games-200604/

I used to pirate as a child. then I grew up lol. havent in many years. the limiter in my gaming a long time ago became time and desire, not money. also I found when I pirated games I had much less desire to play them. it's a weird effect, but if you pay for a game you will try to give it a chance and find the good in it. also with denovu most games arent crackable for some months.

anyways the entire game sizes thing strikes me as self limited. a game maker is never going to put sales at risk by making a game outside the bounds of reasonable size, which of course is an ever sliding scale. and lets not forget ssd's recently became utter dirt cheap. additionally a lot of fiber has been laid recently, and with starlink, tmobile hitting the truly remote areas etc, I'd venture the average broadband situation is also better than ever.

still I will never forget I got into a argument on twitter with a dude who swore install sizes were going to go way down this gen, because the ps5 and series x ssds meant that games would not have to duplicate data in different places on the disc to load faster. I told him dude, you are smoking crack. I really wanted to wait a couple years and rub these install sizes in his face, but I believe he blocked me, weirdo.

 

[shark975]

Data caps are still a very big thing in the US. I'm stuck behind one. I have zero interest in downloading these games. I've got 250mbps download, about 10mbps upload (the upload sucks, it usually sits around 6-7mbps) and a 1.2TB data cap.

130GB game would take me, depending on connection speed and server connection, 1.5-2.5 hours and require 11% of my data cap. In a normal month (without a game download) my family can easily hit 90% of the data cap. That's 1080GB. I wouldn't have enough of my data cap left to download a 130GB game without exceeding the cap and then getting billed an extra $10 per 50GB (capped at something like 500GB, after that you won't get billed anymore, so that's up to an extra $100 a month). So I don't bother with games that require large amounts of data.

I'd love to pay for a physical copy of a game, even if it comes on multiple blu-ray discs - 50GB blu-ray disc means 3 discs for a 130GB game. I know people would cry that physical media is slow with the readers, but if that's the case, then don't use it and go with digital. A physical copy would just give those that don't/won't/can't download the game another option.

With a physical copy I could install the game from the discs and any updates/patches can be downloaded. It won't happen, of course, because devs won't want to pay for physical copies because why cut into the profit lines of selling the game for $70 digitally instead of only making maybe $40 off a $70 sale after costs of physical copies are factored into it.

torrenting 4k anime 24/7 is LITERALLY the only possible way to hit a 1.2 TB cap. which is what you are doing. 20 people streaming 4k netflix 24/7 would come nowhere close, so no, it isn't your "family".

STOP doing that.

and no data caps barely exist in the US, the only one who does that is comcast. Which is still nonsense, but pretty much everywhere should have uncapped options at this point at least.

 

[Neatfeatguy]

torrenting 4k anime 24/7 is LITERALLY the only possible way to hit a 1.2 TB cap. which is what you are doing. 20 people streaming 4k netflix 24/7 would come nowhere close, so no, it isn't your "family".

STOP doing that.

and no data caps barely exist in the US, the only one who does that is comcast. Which is still nonsense, but pretty much everywhere should have uncapped options at this point at least.

Wow. You are so oblivious it isn't even funny.

 

[Neatfeatguy]

torrenting 4k anime 24/7 is LITERALLY the only possible way to hit a 1.2 TB cap. which is what you are doing. 20 people streaming 4k netflix 24/7 would come nowhere close, so no, it isn't your "family".

STOP doing that.

and no data caps barely exist in the US, the only one who does that is comcast. Which is still nonsense, but pretty much everywhere should have uncapped options at this point at least.

Just so you know, roughly an hour of video streaming at standard HD is about 1GB of data. 4k puts you closer to 3GB.

168 hours a week at 3GB an hour = 504GB
3 weeks (that's just 21 days, if you're not sure) = 1512GB

Also, if it makes you feel any better - here's a list of ISPs that have datacaps (I know it may be hard for you to believe, but they do exist in great number, regardless of what you think): https://broadbandnow.com/internet-providers-with-data-caps

 

[godrilla]

I'll stick to $50 a month for internet without the nightmare that is Verizon.

That's Kool but the service is not exclusive to Verizon Google has gigabit fiber service as well @ $70/1gig/month and $100/2gig/month FYI. Some people view time as money. I would be furious to wait for hours for a game to patch or, Graphics driver to update. For me personally Verizon fios is miles more reliable than any other internet provider I experienced in NYC. In fact you are probably the only person ever that I have ever hear talk badly about fios.
update wow I just found out even Optimum has 5 gig fiber at $180 a month and even 8 gig fiber but the prices on that one aren't disclosed on their website.

 

[urielejh]

if you view steam survey italy internet is on average a little faster than america, despite america being 20x larger land to cover and many very very large uninhabited areas etc (america is faster internet than most eu countries of course, for example usa avg speed practically doubles uk, france just not italy), it will be even much worse an American city. 5gb fiber here 25/month and this not a big city. also pay half or less for electricity as italy etc.

What? US got non-flat offers and/or bandwidth/gb caps per month, and at higher prices... How does it make it better? Where I live, a 130.000 town, there are operators that give you up to 5gb@20 euros... With no limits. Lol

 

[Gezzer]

You know, I'd have less of a problem with the massive sizes if there was a corresponding leap in graphic quality. But I just don't see it in the games I've been playing. I guess I'm old school and game play is more important, so once I get past the gasping and gushing over the fidelity, if it's a good game I play it and no longer even really notice the graphics. Well until there's a glitch or something clips, then...