Google accused by the DOJ of abusing market power in landmark antitrust case

[OortCloud]

I think the fact Google quietly dropped their 'don't be evil' thing a few years ago says it all...

 

[Athlonite]

Louise Rossman has very nicely said he'd act as a witness in this case against google's anti competitive practises as shortly after the deal was done with ubreakifix he was told that google couldn't determine accurately if he was an actual in the repair business despite all the evidence in Louise's favour so wont let him use google adwords to advertise his repair shop

 

[Endymio]

Which ones provided money?

To Hunter Biden? The list is long. The Chinese Communist Party provided $1.5B, but Hunter's take of that was less than $5 million. Chinese Energy Company CEFC founder Ye Jiianming offered Hunter $10M annual for "introductions". Hunter was directly wired $3.5M by Elena Baturina, the richest woman in Russia, and the wife of close Putin ally Yuri Luzhvov. Hunter also received over $10M from Burisma founder Mykola Zlochevsky, said to be the most corrupt man in Ukraine. Hunter's laptop also reveals details of "business" deals in Iran, Romania, and elsewhere -- all in exchange for access to, or acts by his father.

 

[mattferg]

We probably have Obama to thank for that, he got pretty chummy with big tech. Trump may be an ***, but he's at least he's critical of big tech abuses. It pretty much explains why the tech giants lean toward fighting against disinformation on certain subjects but not others: they're absolutely incentivized to have Biden win.

??‍ No. For a start, Facebook has been protecting Trump during this whole thing, and the top 10 most popular pages and posts on Facebook are right wing.

Second, Trump isn’t attacking big tech. He’s attacking anything he feels opposes him or stops his lies.

 

[Endymio]

??‍ No. For a start, Facebook has been protecting Trump during this whole thing

Protecting Trump by currently blocking entirely the NY Post's stories on the corruption revealed in Hunter Biden's emails, along with literally hundreds of other cases of censorship and "shadow bans" for the thinnest of excuses, meanwhile allowing and even promoting countless non-verified anonymous-sourced anti-Trump reports. Or how about Facebook moderators openly discussing ways to censor Trump supporters, while giving exemptions to Facebook policy violations for content that attacks Trump? Or the handpicked stories on Facebook News? (The top story as I write this is an anti-Trump piece on immigration). This qualifies as "protection" only to a Mafia don, perhaps.

 

[silversea]

"Google accused by the DOJ of abusing market power in landmark antitrust case" I think it's absolutely disgusting and down right ridiculous that mature adults that post comments on this site can't stay on topic, for those of you that don't understand topic let me explain, 1. Trump, Obama, Joe Biden and his son had nothing to do with this case, 2. China, Russia, Missiles to Poland, Nuclear Treaties, and F16 to Taiwan have nothing to do with this case you get the point!
Here's my comment, I pick and choose whatever browser I want nobody forces my hand, in doing so I except whatever consequences come my way if I get tired of one browser I move on to another it makes no difference to me, the one browser I do like to use often is Opera and every now and then I do use Tor.

 

[Endymio]

Here's my comment, I pick and choose whatever browser I want nobody forces my hand...if I get tired of one browser I move on to another it makes no difference to me...

You may not realize that the antitrust case against Google is almost entirely driven by its ad-sales, search, and product promotion policies. The browser angle is only a small ancillary -- one might almost say nearly irrelevant -- element of that.

 

[silversea]

You may not realize that the antitrust case against Google is almost entirely driven by its ad-sales, search, and product promotion policies. The browser angle is only a small ancillary -- one might almost say nearly irrelevant -- element of that.

You are right but the big picture is in the end you can't have one without the other it's the way they work.

 

[scavengerspc]

To Hunter Biden? The list is long. The Chinese Communist Party provided $1.5B, but Hunter's take of that was less than $5 million. Chinese Energy Company CEFC founder Ye Jiianming offered Hunter $10M annual for "introductions". Hunter was directly wired $3.5M by Elena Baturina, the richest woman in Russia, and the wife of close Putin ally Yuri Luzhvov. Hunter also received over $10M from Burisma founder Mykola Zlochevsky, said to be the most corrupt man in Ukraine. Hunter's laptop also reveals details of "business" deals in Iran, Romania, and elsewhere -- all in exchange for access to, or acts by his father.

Your list is long. The list of facts is empty. Your list is Donnie's list. Its self-serving, disproved and laughable.

Every one of your hero's intelligence departments has stated endlessly that Hunter Biden's choice was not a good one but also not a crime. Very few believe if it were actually a crime (you know, based on facts) that Bill Barr would just be sitting it out. Spreading this continuously makes you a shill in all the worst ways. Please get a ****ing life. Bullshit is no better for you than anyone else.

EDIT:
I thought it would be fun to highlight your imagination with a real, provable concern. What is your opinion of tRUMPS recently discovered Chinese bank account, and keep in mind that I still spend a portion of my day in a hospital bed so I am ready for a laugh.

New York Times: Tax records show Trump maintains Chinese bank account

President Donald Trump's tax records show he has pursued expansive business projects in China for years and even maintains a Chinese bank account, The New York Times reported Tuesday, disclosures that deal a blow to the President's efforts to paint Democratic nominee Joe Biden as the...

www.cnn.com

 

[Avro Arrow]

Google is "accused"... so in twenty years, they MIGHT get convicted.

Here's a crazy idea, why doesn't the US government actually ENFORCE these laws before things get to where they are? They sure are good at enforcing laws on poor people and throwing them into private prison slave labour.

 

[Endymio]

You are right but the big picture is in the end you can't have one without the other it's the way they work.

Huh? Of course you can. Even if Chrome didn't exist, Google the search engine still would -- and Google's antitrust violations based on that engine would still be as heinous.

Your list is long. The list of facts is empty.

The facts are correct. Hunter Biden took tens of millions of dollars from US enemies, as his father was taking actions that benefitted those donors. That alone smells to high heaven, especially -- as you yourself admit -- those actions his father took were all terrible decisions on his part, with or without a payoff involved. But the emails recently discovered on Hunter's laptop proves a linkage between the acts and the payoffs, rather than just the circumstantial evidence we had before. Those emails demonstrate that not only was Hunter getting vast sums, but he was passing along a portion of that directly to his father.

I'm curious -- if you believe Joe Biden is innocent of all this, how do you believe he bought five mansions on his government salary? The one he does interviews in for reporters is the smallest of the five, and even it is a multi-million dollar manor.

 

[scavengerspc]

if you believe Joe Biden is innocent of all this

I don't think he is innocent. But I also know there was no crime.

Now I will repeat myself just for you:

Very few believe if it were actually a crime (you know, based on facts) that Bill Barr would just be sitting it out.

 

[EClyde]

tRUMP has taken nearly every last cent held up in front of him. Only he and his Trumpanistas deny that but the proof is so easy to find its sad. Ill even get you started.

The Swamp That Trump Built (Published 2020)

A businessman-president transplanted favor-seeking in Washington to his family’s hotels and resorts — and earned millions as a gatekeeper to his own administration.

www.nytimes.com

But my post was not political. My only concern with tRUMP is that the most corrupt, dishonest, Pro Russia, Pro China group of self-serving pricks is swept from American office for good. donald trump OR America. Bottom line.

What is a self serving prick?

 

[scavengerspc]

What is a self serving prick?

This is. Synonym of a selfish prick.

 

[Endymio]

According to Forbes Magazine, Trump has lost somewhere between $1B and $2B by being President, a figure confirmed by literally hundreds of other sources. Joe Biden went into office dirt-poor and came out rich -- all on his "gov'mint" salary. I think it's clear who the self-serving one is....

 

[scavengerspc]

According to Forbes Magazine, Trump has lost somewhere between $1B and $2B by being President

Stuff

www.stuff.co.nz

He even gave himself a new name (John Barron) to talk himself up anonymously. And now you think his finances are suddenly all on the level. Pitiful.

Trump, With Michael Cohen By His Side, Has History Of Lying About His Fortune

For more than 30 years, Donald Trump lobbied Forbes for a higher ranking on our annual list of America’s richest people.

www.forbes.com

Trump claimed to be ‘John Barron’ to lie about his wealth

Last. Biden made millions after his term ended, not during. Its a lie.

 

[Endymio]

Stuff

www.stuff.co.nz

He even gave himself a new name (John Barron) to talk himself up anonymously. And now you think his finances are suddenly all on the level. Pitiful.

You're actually comparing Biden taking tens of millions of dollars to alter US foreign policy, with Trump decades before he was in office telling a reporter he was worth more than he really was (if that reporter is even telling the truth, that is).

The facts on the recent Trump decline in personal net worth don't come from Trump anyway, but from Forbes (and many other sources). Similarly, the facts on Biden accepting bribes don't come from Biden himself...but interestingly enough, he has so far not denied the emails are indeed his son's.

 

[scavengerspc]

You're actually comparing Biden taking tens of millions of dollars to alter US foreign policy, with Trump decades before he was in office telling a reporter he was worth more than he really was (if that reporter is even telling the truth, that is).

The facts on the recent Trump decline in personal net worth don't come from Trump anyway, but from Forbes (and many other sources). Similarly, the facts on Biden accepting bribes don't come from Biden himself...but interestingly enough, he has so far not denied the emails are indeed his son's.

You really should have read the article.
Anyway. Here is Biden's earnings history back to 1998.

Fact-checking Joe Biden’s claim about his own income

Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden talked up his tax plan during a conversation with steelworkers in Detroit. "Ev

www.politifact.com

You're actually comparing Biden taking tens of millions of dollars to alter US foreign policy

You haven't provided proof that happened. I figured you guessed because I respect you and don't want to call you a liar again.

.but interestingly enough, he has so far not denied the emails are indeed his son's.

And I will not tell you again. I don't think they are innocent, only that a crime was not committed. If you think there was dont tell me, tell Bill Barr.

 

[EClyde]

This is. Synonym of a selfish prick.

Thanks for the quote and clearing that up

 

[Endymio]

You haven't provided proof that happened.

The payments are well documented, and aren't denied by Joe Biden. If you recall, Joe claimed those payments were kosher because he "didn't know" any details of his son's deals, and therefore wasn't responsible for them. However, his son's recently released emails (read the link provided earlier) demonstrate that not only was Joe well aware of each of these deals, but was himself profiting from them.

Of course, anyone of reasonable intelligence didn't need this smoking gun. Chinese and Russian billionaires don't normally hire crackheads freshly kicked out the US army to multi-million dollar salaries on corporate boards for which they have no experience or knowledge. Not without getting something in exchange for it.

EDIT: This just in: EXCLUSIVE: Hunter Biden laptop subpoenaed in 2019 FBI laundering probe, according to documents...

 

[scavengerspc]

The payments are well documented, and aren't denied by Joe Biden. If you recall, Joe claimed those payments were kosher because he "didn't know" any details of his son's deals, and therefore wasn't responsible for them. However, his son's recently released emails (read the link provided earlier) demonstrate that not only was Joe well aware of each of these deals, but was himself profiting from them.

Crimes get prosecuted. None yet. You may find this surprising for some reason but if this turns up prosecution and conviction I will be on your side of it. Somehow though I doubt you will extend me the same courtesy if the Bidens are cleared. CONS never do.

EDIT: This just in: EXCLUSIVE: Hunter Biden laptop subpoenaed in 2019 FBI laundering probe, according to documents...

I have been watching. But in a typical style, there is a lot of ambiguity in the story. Even the article states "It is unclear, at this point, whether the investigation is ongoing or if it was directly related to Hunter Biden". It is not a solid bit of information for most of us. At least not yet.

For your reading pleasure:

For reasons unknown, Trump says Biden 'should be in jail'

At long last, Trump knows what he wants to say about his rival: he wants voters to believe Biden, for reasons unknown, is a criminal.

www.msnbc.com

 

[mailpup]

Back on topic please. Thank you.

 

[scavengerspc]

Google is "accused"... so in twenty years, they MIGHT get convicted.

Here's a crazy idea, why doesn't the US government actually ENFORCE these laws before things get to where they are? They sure are good at enforcing laws on poor people and throwing them into private prison slave labour.

In my opinion, it's because there are more than a few lobbyists greasing enough palms of the US House and Senate to keep them looking the other way.

 

[Avro Arrow]

In my opinion, it's because there are more than a few lobbyists greasing enough palms of the US House and Senate to keep them looking the other way.

Oh absolutely. There can be no doubt, no doubt at all.

 

[silversea]

I think they need to rename this site TECHSPOT (POLITICAL)