Google bans 'free speech' app Parler, Apple and Amazon have followed

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terzaerian

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Ahhh... let me rephrase... “poorly moderated”
Moving the goalposts. Ten yard penalty, first down.

Precedents are established in law by court decisions - such as those from SCOTUS involving first amendment rights.
And they can unofficially be established by the ABSENCE of court decisions and law enforcement - such as the decision by many city governments to stand by and stand down police while businesses burned and public property was occupied.
 

Puiu

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Moving the goalposts. Ten yard penalty, first down.


And they can unofficially be established by the ABSENCE of court decisions and law enforcement - such as the decision by many city governments to stand by and stand down police while businesses burned and public property was occupied.
Like it or not the app was not being moderated properly and allowed such comments to be made on a regular basis. They got what they deserved.
 

terzaerian

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Like it or not the app was not being moderated properly and allowed such comments to be made on a regular basis. They got what they deserved.
If the rubric is "moderated properly" then Facebook and Twitter should have been pulled from the app stores that day and that hour as well.
 

Darth Shiv

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That is a fact regardless of the tool. Don't forget about innocent people getting killed by law enforcement. As long as law enforcement are equipping themselves, they have no moral grounds to ask for disarmament.

Gun laws are a ridiculous excuse to violence prevention. Gun laws are a flat out attack on our constitutional right. Each and every one of them violate our right to own a gun.

But that is not the topic here today. The topic in this thread is how one political party is being held to a double standard.

If that is the stand point you want to take. Then there is no freedom for BLM activist either. Those violent videos should never have seen the light of day either. The fact that BLM viotence hasn't been taken down. That is where this political censorship get its potential power to prosecute. And don't even come back with a comment like it was only a few BLM activist. Because if treated fairly like this banning of Parler, all BLM conversations are guilty.
BLM literally was a protest against police not charging police who murder. That is the VERY FOUNDATION of civil society and the value of law at all. What kind of society allows people who cold blooded murder AND are the law enforcement just get away with it day after day after day?

My perspective is for BLM, charge EVERYONE WHO COMMITS A CRIME. NO EXCEPTIONS. The police get away unaccountable murder without being charged. Systemic. 3 police watched another police murder someone over a perceived fake $20 (turns out it wasn't even fake) AND the officer had NO KNOWLEDGE of the guy's previous crimes. I.e. the officer murdered someone literally over a $20 note.

That is 3 people who are accessory to murder and one murder. Were they charged??? Why the f%$k not???
 

Darth Shiv

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What precedent? To use an unmoderated social media platform to incite violence?

And I don’t condone any violent protesting... whether it’s BLM, Antifa, or the r3tards storming Capitol Hill
Exactly. I absolutely would not condone the protests or any crimes anywhere. But I understand why BLM did it and there is a terrible systemic racism in the US that needs addressing. NOTHING is being done about it. And I can empathise with their anger.
 

terzaerian

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... a perceived fake $20 (turns out it wasn't even fake) AND the officer had NO KNOWLEDGE of the guy's previous crimes. I.e. the officer murdered someone literally over a $20 note.
Then why isn't your anger directed at the shop owner that called the police? We prosecute and direct the blame for SWATing at the caller instead of the officers responding.
 

candle_86

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Exactly. I absolutely would not condone the protests or any crimes anywhere. But I understand why BLM did it and there is a terrible systemic racism in the US that needs addressing. NOTHING is being done about it. And I can empathise with their anger.

Then you should understand why the capital riot happened. there's an entire section of this country that has been marginalized called stupid ignored and in general belittled by the people now in power. You can't insult half of the country and then be surprised when that half the country comes to whoop your ***.
 

bandit8623

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Like it or not the app was not being moderated properly and allowed such comments to be made on a regular basis. They got what they deserved.
That's the opposite of what should be happening. Section 230 is there so the site owner isn't liable. So there is no reason to start shutting this stuff down. If section 230 was gone still it would just be parlor liable for their users.. Google and Amazon would still not be liable
 

cliffordcooley

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Then you should understand why the capital riot happened. there's an entire section of this country that has been marginalized called stupid ignored and in general belittled by the people now in power. You can't insult half of the country and then be surprised when that half the country comes to whoop your ***.
While I do wish that was what happened. That wasn't how it played out. If it wasn't for Antifa, the capital never would have been stormed. Many Trump supporters were coerced into entering the capital grounds.
 

Darth Shiv

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Then why isn't your anger directed at the shop owner that called the police? We prosecute and direct the blame for SWATing at the caller instead of the officers responding.
Because the shop owner didn't commit the murder. Suspicion of a forged note is NOT the issue here.

The REASONABLE course of action is the individual is detained and the crime investigated. The note is found to not be forged. A verbal apology given. Nobody DIES.

The shop owner is allowed to have reasonable suspicion of forgery and have it investigated. I don't think there is any planet where that is unreasonable. The police have the job to follow up on that. In a proportionate and just manner.
 
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Darth Shiv

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Then you should understand why the capital riot happened. there's an entire section of this country that has been marginalized called stupid ignored and in general belittled by the people now in power. You can't insult half of the country and then be surprised when that half the country comes to whoop your ***.
You think proportionate punishment for being belittled or disrespected is a terrorist attack on the Government is a huge part of the problem.

If you think when someone kicks a garbage bin or accidentally has a fake $20 deserves to be shot, you are a psychopath. That is NOT proportionate to the crime committed.
 

candle_86

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You think proportionate punishment for being belittled or disrespected is a terrorist attack on the Government is a huge part of the problem.

If you think when someone kicks a garbage bin or accidentally has a fake $20 deserves to be shot, you are a psychopath. That is NOT proportionate to the crime committed.

Then you don't understand what's actually going on. These people in power wish to take our future and our freedom in the name of political correctness and virtue signaling. After they've come for the White Christian and his livelihood they are comming for the next person who stands in their way or has values they seem evil. These are the same people that indoctrinate our children to report on what we do, these are the same people the shutdown our businesses for obeying our moral standards. These are the people that told me personally I'm not allowed to be a Christian at work that the second I step the foot in the door I have to leave my faith behind me I'm not allowed to be a Christian and work a state job. There's a reason I no longer work for the state of Texas and it is because of that. Because somebody was offended that while I was on lunch clocked out and I prayed over my own food but they saw it and were offended. That is what we're fighting against, this is a war for freedom, freedom of association, freedom of speech, freedom of thought, and freedom of religion. this is a war to not have the government dictate everything about our lives is they demorally correct.
 
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