High school students discover plants don't grow near Wi-Fi routers

By Shawn Knight ยท 41 replies
Dec 18, 2013
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  1. TheBigFatClown

    TheBigFatClown TS Guru Posts: 683   +253

    My pre-determined agenda? Why...thank you for the compliment. I thought I was just responding to an article on the internet. It seems I have a master plan that I haven't yet discovered myself but now am very anxious to do so. :)
    psycros likes this.
  2. Tanstar

    Tanstar TS Evangelist Posts: 613   +175

    The funniest part of this article for me was, "Five students came to the realization that sleeping near their cell phones at night caused them to have problems concentrating during school the next day."

    Teenage girls with easy access to their phones all night don't get enough sleep? Shocker!
    Forg0t2 likes this.
  3. andy06shake

    andy06shake TS Evangelist Posts: 448   +126

    It was my understanding that Wi-Fi signals propagate just about everywhere these days. Trees still grow around where there transmitter towers/mobile masts are located so I have to question these peoples findings. Looking at the petri dishes my bet is that heat killed that crest. ;)
  4. Forg0t2

    Forg0t2 TS Booster Posts: 147   +25

    Maybe thats why the plants in the first room died. They went online for too long....
  5. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 9,713   +3,691

    Finally some evidence that gaming is unhealthy. "Plants vs Zombies" Now if we can find evidence of Zombies, we can put an end to all doubt. LOL
  6. OliTheG

    OliTheG TS Member Posts: 61   +27

    Urgh, read it in context please.

    A plant will sprout under ARTIFICIAL light (not sunlight bulbs), but not grow (or at the very least have massively stunted growth) any further.

    The light bulb doesn't cancel out natural sunlight in the room. The natural sunlight is needed for photosynthesis, the main way in which energy for storage is used during the hours of daylight. The reverse process then occurs in the absence of sunlight; aerobic respiration.

    Here is an experiment. Get some fully grown plants, and stick them in a dark room WITH NO WINDOWS. ABSOLUTELY NO WINDOWS. Then turn on a light. Most of the plants will die, and none will grow towards the light.
  7. mikeusru

    mikeusru TS Rookie Posts: 48

    Seriously guys.... I thing it's important for high schoolers to learn about research, but results from a study like this don't belong in a tech blog. You're not FOX news.
  8. This is knee jerk pseudoscience, at best.
  9. mailpup

    mailpup TS Special Forces Posts: 7,182   +469

    I think you just described an urban indoor marijuana farm.

    BTW, please stop shouting.
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  10. psycros

    psycros TS Evangelist Posts: 1,868   +1,288

    You mean besides a few major EU studies that led to a complete ban on GMO foods. Or the common knowledge that drug companies are add completely unrelated compounds like vitamins and anti-seizure meds into vaccines, and the government ignores petitions with half a million signatures to look into it. As for the subject at hand, there are several hundred Americans with rare cancers who live near high-tension power lines who would like a word with you. But keep drinking that Kool-Aid, kid - I'm sure its reeeeal good for ya.
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  11. Natefunk

    Natefunk TS Rookie

    Sadly this is not true. It may be non ionizing but it does affect plants. I have tested this extensively with high power microwave transmitters. Most of you are correct that the low power of routers affecting you is BS. Cell phones actually affecting you is even more BS made up by kids who were probably up all night using their cell phones and this was a convenient excuse.
    There is some truth though to the radiation being harmful but only within a certain radius of extremely high levels.
    I am a computer and wireless technician and have seen in every case where a tree is in line of sight of a powerful signal passing through it, it will always be dead within a year. This is because live greens actually block and disrupt radio signals. If you are trying to get a low power (below 1 watt) signal through live trees it won't go.
    So the signal does affect plants and the plants can affect the signal. Human chemistry however is vastly different and non ionizing radiation has no effect on us unless it is at cook you power levels.
    Ask any tech with even just a few years of experience in wireless network deployment and configuration and they will tell you the same thing.
    There are definitely other factors involved but there is still a correlation however mild it might be.
  12. Besides the variables already mentioned above such as sunlight, temperature, ect there could even be the type of plant or possibly even the structure of the plant/seed to consider.

    There are so many variables in this experiment that, to me, all they have is a plate with plants that grew and seeds that did not.

    Wtf techspot?
  13. gunste24

    gunste24 TS Rookie Posts: 39

    These students will go further than their mates. Thinking with imagination and outside the box, designing an interesting experiment. They had a control and the conclusion sounds scientifically sound and logical.
    The naysayers will be the mobile phone companies who nothing like facts to interfere with their marketing efforts.
  14. Tanstar

    Tanstar TS Evangelist Posts: 613   +175

    The naysayers will be anyone who understands that this study was done by high school kids. Was it a good variation on the old "this plant got classical music and this one didn't"? Sure. Was it an actual science story that belonged on TechSpot? Hell no.
  15. ravisunny2

    ravisunny2 TS Ambassador Posts: 1,986   +12

    And, smoking does not kill.:)
  16. TheBigFatClown

    TheBigFatClown TS Guru Posts: 683   +253

    Not unless you do it for a really really long time, right? So, it must be safe. *cough,cough*
  17. To all the sneering "skeptic" types here....
    did you know that buried in the user docs in the Iphone it warns you not to hold the thing closer than 10 mm from your skin?

    Regarding vaccines: numerous books packed with documentation have demonstrated the long and sordid history of government and "scientific" lies. "The Virus and the Vaccine" for instance. Both polio vaccines had bad batches that caused polio. Look up the tale of Bernice Eddy if you really think you can trust these institutions. Excellent summary at http://www.theatlantic.com/past/docs/issues/2000/02/002bookchin.htm

    The links to the USDA site is are a laugh. Obama put a shill for Monsanto in charge of evaluating GMO safety. Then they stuck the Monsanto protection liability clause into a bill (HR 933 Section 735) and the presstitutes in the media ignored it. Herbicide-tolerant "superweeds" are already a serious problem for the farmers conned into using ever-greater quantities of the "Round-Up" product; it's working out great for Monsanto though.

    I'm tired of these egomaniacs brandishing "science" at anybody who questions their reckless behavior. Science is just as corrupt as the banksters or the manufacturers who kept dangerous products on the market. Scientists murdered the nuclear downwinders and many military veterans exposed to radiation in what looks an awful lot like a mad scientist experiment. Check out the excellent but mostly ignored book "The Plutonium Files". They used mentally retarded children too. Why shouldn't I view "scientific ethics' as an oxymoron?

    I'm in California where the taxpayers just subsidized a $3 Billion boondoggle called the CMRI. We were promised the wonders of embryonic stem cells; though actual "skeptics" who questioned this were thrown in the same box as people opposing embryonics on religious grounds. What did we get? Zip. But the 33-member panel made out well lavishing grants and contracts on themselves and all their friends. Meanwhile an independent MD in Portugal (Dr. Carlos Lima) restored sensation and movement in spinal cord injuries--but using adult stem cells (from olfactory tissue). Aside from a feature in 2004 on the PBS series "Innovation" there appears to have been a complete media black-out of Dr. Lima's work. I would thought it worthy of a Nobel Prize.

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