How to make a PC equivalent to an XBOX 360?

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Ralphmex

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Hello there, if i wanted to make a PC run just like an XBOX 360, what would be the system requirements?

Cheers,
 

Nodsu

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"just like" means what? Encumbered with strict copyright enforcements? Just install Vista :D
 

twite

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I think you can install linux on a 360.

Its imposable to make a P.C. just like A 360.

Unless you take apart a 360, and reinstall it in a pc case.

The closest you could probably get performance wise would be a Core 2 duo e6400, and a nvidia 7900-7950.
 
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DelJo63

Ask it the other-way-around: What is the difference between an Xbox and a PC?
 

twite

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The main difference would be that cell processor which you couldn't get for a pc. Other then that the GPU is about a 7800gtx would be equal to about a 7900 for a p.c.
 
Хboх 360 System Performance - Draft
Custom IBM PowerPC-based CPU 3 symmetrical cores running at 3.2 GHz each
2 hardware threads per core; 6 hardware threads total
1 VMX-128 vector unit per core; 3 total
128 VMX-128 registers per hardware thread
1 MB L2 cache


CPU Game Math Performance 9 billion dot product operations per second

Custom ATI Graphics Processor 500 MHz
10 MB embedded DRAM
48-way parallel floating-point dynamically-scheduled shader pipelines
Unified shader architecture

Polygon Performance 500 million triangles per second

Pixel Fill Rate 16 gigasamples per second fillrate using 4X MSAA

Shader Performance 48 billion shader operations per second

Memory 512 MB GDDR3 RAM
700 MHz DDR
Unified memory architecture

Memory Bandwidth 22.4 GB/s memory interface bus bandwidth
256 GB/s memory bandwidth to EDRAM
21.6 GB/s front-side bus

Overall System Floating-Point Performance 1 TFLOP

Storage Detachable and upgradeable 20 GB hard drive
12X dual-layer DVD-ROM
Memory unit support starting at 64 MB

I/O Support for up to 4 wireless game controllers
3 USB 2.0 ports
2 memory unit slots

Optimized for Online Instant, out-of-the-box access to Xbox Live features, including Xbox Live Marketplace for downloadable content, Gamer Profile for digital identity and voice chat to talk to friends while playing games, watching movies or listening to music
Built in Ethernet Port
Wi-Fi Ready: 802.11 A, B and G
Video Camera Ready


Digital Media Support Support for DVD-Video, DVD-ROM, DVD-R/RW, DVD+R/RW, CD-DA, CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW, WMA CD, MP3 CD, JPEG Photo CD
Stream media from portable music devices, digital cameras, Windows XP PCs
Rip music to Xbox 360 hard drive
Custom playlists in every game
Windows Media Center Extender built in
Interactive, full screen 3D visualizers

HD Game Support All games supported at 16:9, 720p and 1080i, anti-aliasing
Standard definition and high definition video output supported

Audio Multichannel surround sound output
Supports 48 KHz 16-bit audio
320 independent decompression channels
32-bit audio processing
Over 256 audio channels

System Orientation Stands vertically or horizontally

Customizable Face Plates Interchangeable to personalize the console


SO THE REAL QUESTION IS...HOW MUCH MONEY DO YOU HAVE?
 

Ralphmex

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The question is simple: Is it possible to obtain the same performance than an XBOX 360, and what you´ll need to have in the PC.
 

twite

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You can get waaay better performance from a P.C. Any Core 2 duo processor, any video card 7800 and later, and 1 gig of ram will do it.
 

MetalX

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Nah... doubt it. Somehow I doubt that Unreal Tournament 3 (Unreal Tournament 2007?) would run as well on that hardware as Gears of War does on the 360. They use the same engine; Unreal 3, so technically it would be like comparing the same game more or less.
 

twite

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Alot more details are but into p.c games, thats why they generally don't perform as well (for low-mid range p.c). Look at the difference between oblivion for 360, and P.C.
 

Condor

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I'm able to play 50% of any PS2 games on my PC using just the ISO. All you need is a program for the Xbox.

the program I used to play all my PS/PS2 start with the letter "E" and it require a good rag to support it. pick yours

heres some example for the ps2

 

Nodsu

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Ralphmex said:
The question is simple: Is it possible to obtain the same performance than an XBOX 360, and what you´ll need to have in the PC.
Needs to define "perfomance". A console is a lean mean machine designed to play games and the games on that console are designed to run on that machine. No PC can ever match that gameplay experience. Ask anyone whether an emulator can match a real SNES :)

Now, your 360 most certainly sucks when it comes to disk space, amount of memory, upgradability, whatever.

So, again, what exactly do you want?
 

TimeParadoX

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I think he / she wants to know if you could build a computer that is equal in graphics / gameplay as a Xbox 360, It's easy to do it and actualy get better then a 360... it's just alot of money spent ;)

Just get a Duo core or something around the same specs of it, Get SLI 7900GTX ( or even 8800s if you have the money ), a 1000w PSU, 2-4gigs of RAM ( yes that's alot :haha: ), Watercooling on everything in the whole machine, Get 2 Raptor HDDs ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822136012 )

then you'll have something equal ( or even better ) to it ;)
 

MetalX

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That's not nearly 20x better than a 360. That's maybe 1.5x-2x better. I mean hardware-wise, it owns a 360. But like Nodsu said, everything for 360 was MADE for 360 and ONLY for 360. And 360 is a gaming machine. It might also be because Windows is something of an all-purpose OS. Maybe if someone developed an OS designed just for gaming, it would make PC games performance go up, but I'm not sure.
 

MetalX

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twite said:
Alot more details are but into p.c games, thats why they generally don't perform as well (for low-mid range p.c). Look at the difference between oblivion for 360, and P.C.
Ok, but on 360, it is being rendered at 1920x1080p even if it isn't in HD mode. It just scales down to fit the screen. Or so I assume, because if a 360 lagged that much playing oblivion at 720x480... It would be unplayable at 1920x1080.
 

twite

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I mean hardware-wise

Thats what i was reffering to.

It's obvious that the 360 does a better job for what it does (gaming), but if were to use a 360 emulator on a p.c it would tear it up.
 

Ralphmex

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Wow! it looks that there´s a lot of experts, here, but thanks, i just wanted to know if with the existent hardware, video cards, processor, you can get something very similar or better to a gaming console. I think you guys already answered my question. I´ll get sometime a radeon x1950, that´s the only thing i think i´m missing to get a very close performance on games like say Rainbow Six Vegas or something. But, thanks again!
 

Condor

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Heres Rainbow Six Vegas on a 360
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPI2xuV3Zvk
when I play it on my pc, everything glow, look really realistic cos setting we can do and stuff to make everything look nice.

All this is possible if you do some research and take some of those advices; picking up those recommended hardware's, you can turn your PC just like the 360 and better.
 

Supra

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MetalX said:
Ok, but on 360, it is being rendered at 1920x1080p even if it isn't in HD mode. It just scales down to fit the screen. Or so I assume, because if a 360 lagged that much playing oblivion at 720x480... It would be unplayable at 1920x1080.

Actually %99 of the 360's games run at 1280x720(hence 720p) and are scaled to whatever resolution you want display on your screen. There are only 1 or 2 360 games that run 1080p native.
 

MetalX

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Whoops, meant to say 1920x1080i. But most games are 1080i. Look on the back of the box, and you'll see that a lot of games say 1080i.
 

Supra

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All X360 games are internally rendered at 1280x720 except for a few very new games like Virtual Tennis and a few others, they are just scaled to any resolution you set your 360 to in the settings. It only says up to 1080i on the box because at the time the game was made the 360 wasn't able to output any higher that 1080i, or else 1080p would be on the box too.
 

MetalX

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Supra said:
All X360 games are internally rendered at 1280x720 except for a few very new games like Virtual Tennis and a few others, they are just scaled to any resolution you set your 360 to in the settings. It only says up to 1080i on the box because at the time the game was made the 360 wasn't able to output any higher that 1080i, or else 1080p would be on the box too.
Oh... in which case my PC is more powerful than a 360. It lags noticeably less on max settings + HDR on Oblivion at 1280x1024 than the 360 does at apparently 1280x720p... go figure.
 
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