Hundreds of Warner Bros. DVDs from the 2000s are rotting away

Daniel Sims

Posts: 1,876   +49
Staff
Facepalm: Those who still own DVDs or have movie collections from the 2000s should check them for Warner Bros. logos and see if the discs have rotted. Unfortunately, many affected titles aren't available in other formats, and the company cannot replace all of them, increasing the risk of many classic movies and TV shows becoming lost.

Film collectors recently discovered that potentially hundreds of Warner Bros. DVDs released between 2006 and 2008 have become unplayable due to laser rot. The company has promised to replace some affected titles, but others may become much harder to find through official channels.

Warner Bros. has confirmed the issue and advised customers with damaged discs to contact customer support. However, the company will only replace titles that are still in print. Unfortunately, many affected DVDs are either out of print or locked behind licensing restrictions.

Users on the Steve Hoffman music forums have compiled an extensive list of approximately 200 known affected titles, many of which include classic movies and TV shows spanning from the 1950s to the 2000s.

Notable examples include Blade Runner, several seasons of the 1950s Superman live-action TV show, Animaniacs, Batman: The Animated Series, Looney Tunes, 2001: A Space Odyssey, Tales From the Crypt, Popeye, The Wizard of Oz, and many more. No cases of rotting Blu-rays have been reported so far. Some DVDs won't play at all, while others may stop or skip at certain points.

Some damaged titles have been re-released on Blu-ray or made available on streaming services, but many have not received new editions since their original DVD releases in the 2000s. Titles that exist only on DVD and cannot be reprinted are at risk of being lost. Cinephiles may also argue about differences in transfer quality between later versions, claiming that the lost DVDs were the definitive editions.

Physical media has become a refuge for film buffs as streaming services routinely remove content from their catalogs. Warner Bros. has already drawn widespread criticism for deleting unreleased films like Batgirl and Coyote vs. Acme.

However, users have long understood that optical discs are not foolproof. Various factors – such as format, manufacturing processes, and storage conditions – can make some discs unreadable after one or two decades. Common causes include scuffs, exposure to ultraviolet light, chemical reactions with contaminants, oxidation of the reflective layer, and the de-bonding of adhesive layers.

Those concerned about losing DVDs to disc rot should consider backing them up and periodically making new copies. Fortunately, DVDs are easier to copy and backup than Blu-rays with a PC optical drive and the right software.

Permalink to story:

 
Life isn't fair.
People make mistakes.
No one is perfect.
Nothing lasts forever.

Choose one and move on.
 
Same with their HD-DVD releases. Almost all of mine are unreadable. Seems that only the dual format (SD one side, HD on the other) escaped the rot. Been picking up titles on BluRay where I can, or (gasp), praising myself for ripping them to a digital backup copy before I knew this was going to be a thing…
 
The only thing I have on that list is my 4 disc's from Stanley Kubrick Director’s Series and I just tested them all without issue. They are all ripped to my plex server storage which is on a redundant array and is backed up to another drive weekly as well as a offsite drive every 3 months.
 
Hey maybe they could dump them into isos and use them to train some stupid AI model: even if they're not consider commercially viable entities on their own and sitting on their IPs until they literally rot is their only value that can be circumvented by technically Warner Bros. Pirating themselves: just have AI create some new stuff out of those and a bunch of other stuff I'm sure they can use from their back catalog while it sits there doing nothing in case there's an actual financially viable reason to revive some of those properties.
 
I have a DVD that has described and founded out when I went to go rip it into my flax I'm not going to go try to repie it I just said I maybe and went and got a copy I still keeping the DVD but it's no longer playable
 
Same with their HD-DVD releases. Almost all of mine are unreadable. Seems that only the dual format (SD one side, HD on the other) escaped the rot. Been picking up titles on BluRay where I can, or (gasp), praising myself for ripping them to a digital backup copy before I knew this was going to be a thing…
Thank god I rip everything.
See this is illegal, even if you own the DVD. I did it too anyways though. Obviously DVDs go bad and we paid for them in the first place! If I ever get sued for piracy, I have my own defense lol. It's not like I'm distributing or sending these to others; I just want them to be secure and easily watchable from my TV.
 
See this is illegal, even if you own the DVD. I did it too anyways though. Obviously DVDs go bad and we paid for them in the first place! If I ever get sued for piracy, I have my own defense lol. It's not like I'm distributing or sending these to others; I just want them to be secure and easily watchable from my TV.
It's not illegal to copy media you own for your own use. Now, bypassing the DRM itself....that is the illegal part. But since I've got intact images of my disks, DRM and all, its not technically illegal.
 
See this is illegal, even if you own the DVD.
No, it isn't. As long as they own the disc's they backup and/or convert, it's perfectly within their rights. Breaking copy protections is only illegal IF someone is doing it for non-personal use and reasons. Otherwise it falls under fair use.
 
PSA: I had some optical disks go bad. I can't remember if they were CD or DVDs. They had some burned pictures on them. They were stored in pretty colored plastic sleeves which had some destructive chemical reaction. Some colors were worse than others, but I can't remember which.

It would be a very good idea for anyone to quickly see if you have optical media in plastic sleeves and maybe test the media to make sure it is OK. Or at least make sure no plastic is contacting the optical surface. Use sleeves or other storage that is known to be safe.

Optical can be a good format for long term. Most of us probably doubt M-Disks would last 1,000 years as advertised, at least under normal conditions, but they probably last a very long time, especially if stored in a smart way.
 
You would
I don't think these were ever claimed to have a long life span. They aren't DiamonDiscs. They aren't M-Discs, no one ever said they were. Those actually do last a very long time.

Like I said you're making **** up just to seem sensational.
 
I don't think these were ever claimed to have a long life span. They aren't DiamonDiscs. They aren't M-Discs, no one ever said they were. Those actually do last a very long time.

Like I said you're making **** up just to seem sensational.
I am sensational. Let's get with the spirit of the thing. Take an artists view and don't zero in on a moment of time.
 
I think you're just making **** up
Of course they are.

As with CDs, the information and data storage will begin to degrade over time with most standard DVDs lasting up to 30 years depending on the type of environment they are stored and whether they are full with data.[104]

According to the Optical Storage Technology Association (OSTA), "Manufacturers claim lifespans ranging from 30 to 100 years for DVD, DVD-R and DVD+R discs and up to 30 years for DVD-RW, DVD+RW and DVD-RAM."[105]

According to a NIST/LoC research project conducted in 2005–2007 using accelerated life testing, "There were fifteen DVD products tested, including five DVD-R, five DVD+R, two DVD-RW and three DVD+RW types. There were ninety samples tested for each product. ... Overall, seven of the products tested had estimated life expectancies in ambient conditions of more than 45 years. Four products had estimated life expectancies of 30–45 years in ambient storage conditions. Two products had an estimated life expectancy of 15–30 years and two products had estimated life expectancies of less than 15 years when stored in ambient conditions." The life expectancies for 95% survival estimated in this project by type of product are tabulated below:
 
I have a feeling that my entire DVD collection (all five seasons) of Babylon 5 are shot to hell.
 
No, it isn't. As long as they own the disc's they backup and/or convert, it's perfectly within their rights. Breaking copy protections is only illegal IF someone is doing it for non-personal use and reasons. Otherwise it falls under fair use.
No. Again, for personal use, a person can do whatever they want with something they own.
Breaking encryption even for personal use was already proven illegal in courts: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/321_Studios_v._Metro_Goldwyn_Mayer_Studios,_Inc.
It's legal to view a DVD for personal use. It's not legal to access DVD data even for personal use with the existing license, and only authorized players are allowed to do that. Circumventing that is breaking the DMCA license agreement. But of course, individuals aren't being brought to court for backing up their own DVDs and it's kind of like one of those outdated laws at this point.
 
Back