I've followed the 15 steps techspot.com/vb/topic58138.html I've not found anything particularly much, but my computer is behaving it's self a little more than before. Basic symptoms were the screen appearing to refresh and at this point closing any open windows that I was navigating through. i.e. control panel, folders etc. If I closed any open programs that normally made the desktop icons, task bar, and start menu disappear. These symptoms have stopped but I still have no internet. It says I'm connected to an unidentified network but it has no internet. The network is normally identified. I have tried doing 'repair' but alas after claiming I did not have a wireless device (which I shouldn't have because it's a wired connection), and trying to reassign the IP address, I'm still no further with a solution. It wouldn't install any of the virus software until I installed it off of a USB mem. stick which might help someone in the future. I couldn't connect to the net, although other computers in my house could (hence not a router/isp problem). Being honest this has taken a flippin age moving files from one computer to another by memory stick, I'd have been as well off formatting the thing but I heard it may not be a solution (i.e. it could be boot sector or CMOS) but I don't know enough to know about this stuff. I couldn't run SS&D because it wants internet, and I couldn't update any of the other stuff for the same reason. Anyway here's my logs, any light you can shed would be great. Please if you aren't sure then don't give me any advice, I've seen so many forums with people giving silly advice, and although I know it's not great advice, not everyone will.