Indiana Jones and the Great Circle needs a ray-tracing GPU, path tracing requires frame gen to hit 60fps

I dont know If it can be used as example but Doom Eternal makes me scratch my head... It got good graphics (I think...) and manages to reach 500fps on a potato GPU from the 18 century.

Meanwhile Indy needs a tokamak fed 4090 and luck to hit 60fps 4K... Someone need to get back to coding school.
 
1st person just snatches away so much character, Drake looks so cool in uncharted because you see him running around, bullets whizing by, just seeing the actual character react to the world adds so much to a game,

just seeing 2 arms for hours and hours doesn't hit nearly the same, it's also one of my main gripes with cp2077, and this game is doing that same annoying thing where its like 90% 1st person then sometimes switches to 3rd for certain actions.

oh well, sry for the rant.
Nah its somewhat true. I like both tho. 3rd person would probably have been the safer choice here. Early reviews looks very good tho.
 
Tomb Raider....the new ones....good? Really? I mean, if you like playing a character that is Rambo, John Wick and the Terminator all rolled into one, I guess that makes sense. I hadn't laughed so hard at a poor story in a game for a long time as I did with first new Tomb Raider. Also, if you like no actual tombs, just tiny minor puzzle you complete in about 90 seconds....

Uncharted, I really enjoyed the first one. Then played about 2 hours into the second one and it felt just like the first one and I got bored, maybe I gave up too soon on it?

I haven't read any possible spoilers or reviews on this game, but so far any game that's come out recently that lists all these requirements that shows you need top-end hardware to run the game at maybe 60fps, then they clearly did the same thing that all the other developers have done: focused on pretty lights and not actual gameplay, story and functionality (squashing of bugs, controls and so on). Just based on this alone, I'd venture to guess that this game will be just mediocre, kind of like how STALKER 2 is.
Stalker 2 is great.
Uncharted 2 is the best one in the series.
Tomb Raider are good as well.

You got old.
 
FG 30->60 was never to be used, the forbitten fruit. And now Nvidia is selling it all day long. DLSS performance and FG from 30->60 on a 4090? I’m speechless
No they don't. It is a feature, that is possible to use if you want. They don't sell it as the holy grail. If you look at their DLSS 3 game performance indications, they always reach like 100+ fps with DLSS 3 in the end.

FG is not very usefull below 60 fps.

If you get 100-120 fps without FG, and use a 240 Hz monitor, then FG makes sense to enable and latency hit is miniscule when fps is already 100-120 fps. I do it all the time in single player games. Meaning you can max out visuals, run DLAA and still get high fps and smoothness is better with FG enabled than without it.

In multiplayer games / shooters, I obviously don't use stuff like this, and aims for 250+ fps since I use 360 Hz.
 
No they don't. It is a feature, that is possible to use if you want. They don't sell it as the holy grail. If you look at their DLSS 3 game performance indications, they always reach like 100+ fps with DLSS 3 in the end.

FG is not very usefull below 60 fps.

If you get 100-120 fps without FG, and use a 240 Hz monitor, then FG makes sense to enable and latency hit is miniscule when fps is already 100-120 fps. I do it all the time in single player games. Meaning you can max out visuals, run DLAA and still get high fps and smoothness is better with FG enabled than without it.

In multiplayer games / shooters, I obviously don't use stuff like this, and aims for 250+ fps since I use 360 Hz.
That’s besides the point. In this game specificly, a 4090 needs FG to get to 60fps. When FG came out, Nvidia said not to use it below 60fps. Now they are telling us to use it at 30fps.
 
So the games "Early Access" is out now, it seems it's actually a pretty good game, performance wise seems to be fine as well, HOWEVER, Path Tracing is being added in an update later down the line, so we're only seeing the normal RT performance for now. (Also means I doubt Digital Foundry will do a deep dive into it until the PT mode is added).
 
That’s besides the point. In this game specificly, a 4090 needs FG to get to 60fps. When FG came out, Nvidia said not to use it below 60fps. Now they are telling us to use it at 30fps.
Nvidia is not telling you to. Lazy developers are.

In which game does a 4090 needs FG to reach 60 fps?
 
Nvidia is not telling you to. Lazy developers are.

In which game does a 4090 needs FG to reach 60 fps?
This game, the one you're in the comment section of, it's literally in the article but I'll paste it here as well:
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Edit: very specifically:
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It claims a 4090 can only reach "60fps" by using DLSS in Performance mode (native 1080p to 4K upscaling) and using Frame Generation.
 
Nvidia is not telling you to. Lazy developers are.

In which game does a 4090 needs FG to reach 60 fps?
Nvidia paid to insert an ingame advert for the 5090 in here. Absolutely the whole ”full ray tracing” part is all Nvidia and made to not run on anything but the gpu they want you to buy, the 5090. They have to make the 4090 obsolete to sell the 5090.
 
Stalker 2 is great.
Uncharted 2 is the best one in the series.
Tomb Raider are good as well.

You got old.
Stalker 2 story isn't very interesting as to why Skif is involved. An artifact falls on his front step and his house is burned....unless I missed it, I was under the impression he lived alone - so no one was killed in his family (not even a dog) and now he just wants revenge for his house being ruined. That's weak as F for a storyline. Some of the story as you progress through the game is kind of interesting, but the reason for the protagonist to go out slaughtering people in the zone, this isn't a compelling reason. The only thing going for STALKER 2 is the fact that it is basically a prettier version of SoC/CS/CoP games and I enjoyed all of them. Right now I'm waiting for the bugs to get fixed, especially for missions once you hit the mid area of the story....so many broken aspects need to be fixed.

Uncharted 2 - game played just like the first and the opening of the game didn't really do anything exciting. It just felt like more of the same and I already played through the first game so I lost interest.

Tomb Raider - what a laughable story. Escape from being caught. Do some traveling, find another survivor (you actually do this a couple of times if I remember correctly) and tell them where to go and you'll meet up. The survivor somehow magically makes it through to the meet up location unscathed whereas Lara has to traverse through crap after crap....how the hell did a survivor that is unarmed make it across the island without getting killed whereas Lara has to traverse difficult terrain and fight off bad guys at every turn? It's been a long while since I played the game, but here are some of the dumber things that I recall....
* At one point you get snared and you're hanging upside down while bad guys are dropping in and rushing to kill you. But no need to fear because while hanging upside down you have remarkable John Wick shooting skills and you can drop every bad guy with a headshot.
* Speaking of John Wick, level up your hand to hand combat and you can now disarm, takedown and kill a bad guy in a way that John Wick would be so proud of you, even though you've had no training whatsoever.
* Maybe you just want to stand in one spot and do power draws on your bow and take out guys like you're Rambo.
* How about the time you're falling through the sky and you fall through trees, bouncing on the way down and you don't die or get knocked out, not even seriously injured....only to be eventually captured and then knocked the F out with a punch. You get this petite girl that takes a beating falling through trees, getting swept down a raging river, taking bullets during combat and shaking it all off like the Terminator, only to get knocked the F out by a guy that punches her once. I laughed and laughed and laughed when this happened. What awful storytelling.
* Let us not forget that there aren't any tombs in Tomb Raider. All you get are some small roomed areas with a simple puzzle that can be completed within 90 seconds to get a small treasure cache that doesn't offer anything unique to help you get through the game.
The game was bad and the only reason I finished it was because I started it. At least I got some good laughs out of it.

If you want a somewhat decent Tomb Raider game that isn't one of the originals, play Lara Croft and The Guardian of Light. At least the puzzles here are better and the combat is better.

Your comment about "you got old" is stupid. Just because someone doesn't enjoy a game as much as you do doesn't mean they're old. Perhaps the rehashed gameplay or horrible story writing or uninteresting game mechanics are what turn some people off from these games.
 
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Uncharted 2 is literally the best one in the series, best critic reviews and best user reviews. Lmao.

Sure you did not just get old?
Old? Do you mean grown up and able to handle and play games meant for those over the age of 10 years old? Uncharted 2 is a basic simplistic childs game! "literally the best one" - seriously this is the best they have? Adult games are way funner. Give it time, you'll catch up. Incredible.
 
Old? Do you mean grown up and able to handle and play games meant for those over the age of 10 years old? Uncharted 2 is a basic simplistic childs game! "literally the best one" - seriously this is the best they have? Adult games are way funner. Give it time, you'll catch up. Incredible.
Best one in the series according to all user reviews and all pro reviews. Wake up, open your eyes.
 
Nvidia paid to insert an ingame advert for the 5090 in here. Absolutely the whole ”full ray tracing” part is all Nvidia and made to not run on anything but the gpu they want you to buy, the 5090. They have to make the 4090 obsolete to sell the 5090.
Good thing that you don't have to enable RT then yeah?
What cool about RTX, is that you can just use DLSS and FG to boost fps, without turning on RT. Insanely good for longevity.

Nvidia Frame Gen beats AMD FG with ease. Just like DLSS beats FSR with ease.

Even XeSS beats FSR and AMD should have top prio on this. Needs to be improved. PS5 Pro went with an in house upscaler because FSR was not good enough as well.

XeSS 2 will have both upscaling and frame gen.
 
This game, the one you're in the comment section of, it's literally in the article but I'll paste it here as well:
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Edit: very specifically:
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It claims a 4090 can only reach "60fps" by using DLSS in Performance mode (native 1080p to 4K upscaling) and using Frame Generation.
Has nothing to do with Nvidia as you claim. Developers comes up with game requirements. Also, they are wrong as usual.


"All in all, Indiana Jones and the Great Circle runs incredibly well on the PC. A lot of GPUs will be able to run it with over 60FPS at both Native 1080p and 1440p. And, thanks to DLSS 3, NVIDIA RTX40 series owners can enjoy it with over 140FPS at 4K/Supreme with DLAA and Frame Generation."

Nuff said.
 
Has nothing to do with Nvidia as you claim. Developers comes up with game requirements.
I didn't claim anything, I responded to your response to MasterAce, You asked:
In which game does a 4090 needs FG to reach 60 fps?
So I responded because you're in the comment section of the game claiming exactly that.
Also, they are wrong as usual.
No their not, your ability to read is actually the problem here, I'll post it again:
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I'll spell it out for you though just to make sure we're 100% reading the same thing:
"Full Ray Tracing Requirements"

The patch for Path Tracing is out today I believe, so any benchmarks you've read, they're not based on the PC Requrements listed for Full Ray Tracing.
 
I didn't claim anything, I responded to your response to MasterAce, You asked:

So I responded because you're in the comment section of the game claiming exactly that.

No their not, your ability to read is actually the problem here, I'll post it again:
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I'll spell it out for you though just to make sure we're 100% reading the same thing:
"Full Ray Tracing Requirements"

The patch for Path Tracing is out today I believe, so any benchmarks you've read, they're not based on the PC Requrements listed for Full Ray Tracing.
Anyway, Nvidia is not involved in this at all. Developers are. Nvidia never recommends FG to reach 60 fps.
 
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