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Install a second drive to get data only - newbie

By jack72 ยท 10 replies
Apr 19, 2007
  1. My current drive has a problem with booting up (chkdsk issue) and since I am not techincal in computers, I think the easiest thing to do is install a new drive, reload windows xp and copy only the programs I need from the the bad drive.

    I was going to disconnect on of my cd roms to to this. Is this a good idea.

    Also, can someone tell me or point me in the direction of an easy to follow procedure to set up the secondary drive to retrieve data only, and then take it out and reconnect my CD Rom.
  2. Blakhart

    Blakhart TS Rookie Posts: 353

    If you have sata ide devices, with the skinny (usualy red) cables, they have no master/slave relationships or id issues, there is only one device per sata cable so it's plug and play, off you go. If you have pata ide devices, the kind with the wide grey cable as usualy found on cdroms and so on, all you have to consider is the master/slave relationship. The device at the end of the cable is usualy the master, the middle position is the slave. If both end up being masters or slaves the bios will have issues and the system will likely not boot. This master/slave function is set via a jumper on the drive. The drive will have a legend printed on it to tell you what jumper position enables what. Also, the drives may have a jumper position called "cs" which is short for cable select. That means bios will determine who is master or slave by itself. Both devices will need to be set to "cs" for this to work, and some cables and bios interfere with "cs" functioning so it can be hit and miss with "cs". To be sure, I never use it, the device on the cable end gets to be master, the middle one is set to slave no matter what, and the master is always the hdd, never the cdrom or other optical drive.

    Just some thoughts for you.
  3. Samstoned

    Samstoned TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,018

    there's a sticky here on how to setup your drives to do this op
    a quicky:
    put new drive in the cd slot set jumper for it to slave if it's ide
    make sure the other optical is set to master
    format the drive
    remove drive replace with the old drive set it's jumper to slave
    install new in place set jumper to master
    install xp disc or whatever boot make changes to partitions as needed
    I make 1 at least 15gb 2nd would hold the rest
    after install you will probubly need to take possision of the old drive another sticky here look around
    if you let xp iinstall format drive there will be a 7mb partition left on drive
  4. TangoTrolly

    TangoTrolly TS Rookie Posts: 59

    Are you able to boot the old drive at all? Is it still functioning? If so, it is quite simple to replace the drive and keep all your programs and data.

    Install your new drive as per Blakhart's instructions above.
    Then download, onto the old drive, a program called Migrate Easy from this web site:

    Run Migrate Easy, follow the prompts and it will copy everything from the old Hard Drive to the New One, including Windows XP, your programs and your data. Then remove the Old Drive, make the New Drive your master, boot up and you are back in business.

    Hope this helps.
  5. zipperman

    zipperman TS Rookie Posts: 1,179   +7

    It's easy I did it.

    Connnect the new HD as Primary Master and remove all other Hard drives.
    You need a cdrom for Windows,make it Secondary Master.
    Install OS
    Shut down and connect old OS drive as slave on either.
    You can copy or move data like movies,pictures,Favorites and
    save OE mail if you know how.I'll dig up my link if you want for saveing OE mail.
    But theres another way useing Export options.
    Note : You can't move Programs that where cd installed and Registered.
    EG: Microsoft Office.
    But you should have the cd's to do these,and download utilities etc again.
  6. TangoTrolly

    TangoTrolly TS Rookie Posts: 59

    I differ with your quote: "You can't move Programs that where cd installed and Registered."

    I just replaced a HDD for a customer last week, using 'Migrate Easy.' The old HDD had S.M.A.R.T. errors. Program is basically a mirror image copy, except it allows you to adjust partitions. It can be used for upgrading HDDs also. Job took about 45 minutes and the new disk had everything from the old one, including CD installed programs. I ran several programs, to see if everything works. System was exactly the way it was before.
  7. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 12,758   +2,429

  8. TangoTrolly

    TangoTrolly TS Rookie Posts: 59

    Thanks for the heads-up. They certainly changed it back to "Disk Wizard." For a while there, while they upgraded "disk Wizard," they named the download 'Migrate Easy." They also changed the link since last week. Stuff changes fast sometimes... Goes to show I should not assume.
  9. zipperman

    zipperman TS Rookie Posts: 1,179   +7

    Let me explain then

    I was responding to Jack72 who started this post.
    Jack stated he would install OS to a NEW formated hard drive
    Then copy installed programs to it.So that explains what i posted to him.
    You can't !
    It would seem he wasn't familiar with what you suggest
    and posted after mine.
    I know you can do this,but It's not like moveing data.
    He didn't appear to know this and hasn't replied to anyone.
    But he wouldn't lose anything doing it my way,just more installing to do.
    Most posts like this are concern for personal data like pictures and music.
    So a Ghost isn't a sollution for a beginner.
  10. Samstoned

    Samstoned TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,018

    yes first poster you should be aware that just copying the programs will not make them run
    you need the install exe's or msi's for this
    I made same mistakes years ago thought I had it licked bang no programs would run
    now there are a few programs that will, very few
  11. zipperman

    zipperman TS Rookie Posts: 1,179   +7

    I have just moved the odd zip extracted and ready to run type,but not things like
    Ad-Aware,Nero or MS Office etc.
    This should end this topic.
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