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Intel wants to put a black box inside your car

By Matthew Smith · 33 replies
Jul 12, 2010
  1. Earlier this year, Toyota was hit by an epic disaster in the United States. The automaker's cars were accused of defects that caused vehicles to accelerate uncontrollably. The alleged fault was blamed for numerous accidents, including one where a rental Lexus went out of control and crashed at over 100 miles per hour, killing four passengers inside.

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  2. matrix86

    matrix86 TS Guru Posts: 827   +32

    I'm actually for this. It's not a bad idea. It'll be good for accidents in which bother parties either die or cannot talk. It would make it easier for investigators to find out what happened.
  3. Black box in a vehicle, why not and it make perfect sense. Since it has the ability to record everything from how the technical side of the card is performing to how exactly a driver is behaving behind the wheel.
  4. LinkedKube

    LinkedKube TechSpot Project Baby Posts: 3,481   +44

    No more talking your way out of speeding tickets, that's for sure.
  5. matrix86

    matrix86 TS Guru Posts: 827   +32


    Not really. The only way they could get the data from it is by extracting it from the vehicle and hooking it up to a computer. So need to worry about talking your way out of a speeding ticket...it's still possible.....not that I would ever recommend doing such a thing :p
  6. Matthew Smith

    Matthew Smith TS Rookie Topic Starter

    I am skeptical about this because of the authority it gives to a supposedly objective system that is in fact going to be subject to errors and malfunctions.
  7. I think the reason why they crashed at 100mph is because they had there foot down. Why would you let a car get to 100mph without turning off the engine. Bit like the fool who couldn't control his car by stopping it. Turn it off? fail
  8. I agree with the above post, the only reason why intel wanna put them in ur car is because everyone owns a car and its a huge market to make mass money off.
  9. OneArmedScissor

    OneArmedScissor TS Enthusiast Posts: 50   +7


    It won't be too much longer and Intel will want to put a T-800 in everyone's home. Intelnet inside...everything.
  10. LookinAround

    LookinAround Ex Tech Spotter Posts: 6,491   +183

    Actually, the idea and intent of vehicle Event Data Recorders (EDRs) has been around since at least early to mid 2000's
    => It's really a move at the governmental level for safety (Intel just sees it as a new market for them)
    => In addition to considerations for abuse and privacy

    2006 Privacy Legislation Related to Event Data Recorders ("Black Boxes") in Vehicles

    US DOT Federal Motor Carrier Safety Admin: Vehicle Data Recorders
  11. I can just see them hooking a transponder to the black box eventually. Go past speed limit sign too fast, the black box will send to the sign your car's VIN (vehicle identification number) and your speed. Bingo -- automatic speeding ticket.

    Most newer vehicles have black boxes already but that contain a limited number of parameters and only the last 5-10 seconds. If an airbag is deployed or is close to deploying the data will be saved for use by accident investigators (and yes, it was already used in courts to prove someone was speeding).
  12. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 12,501   +2,295

    This whole issue is a double edged sword. It would be nice to be able to prove that someone was following you down the freeway 2 feet from your rear bumper, if they were dumb enough to pull in directly in front of a tractor trailer and managed to get themselves killed, or if they were texting or talking on a cell phone when they killed your child. Too much information you say...?

    I find it very ironic, that sometimes the most vigorous calls for individual freedoms, are from the people with the most to hide.
  13. thatguyandrew92

    thatguyandrew92 TS Rookie Posts: 118

    I want anything in my car tracking what I do.
  14. dividebyzero

    dividebyzero trainee n00b Posts: 4,891   +1,262

    Anything ?......mother-in-law...bored and hungry children...potential abductor behind the front seats.
    Don't know about you, but I view my car as a little sanctuary...the less intrusion the better. However the idea of a little black box is intriguing, although I'd look at substituting a small block of C4 for the recorder...to be triggered when the device senses a left turn when the right-turn indicator is going (or vice versa) and lane changing without indicating.
  15. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 12,501   +2,295

    I know that's what you posted, but is that really what you meant?
  16. Xclusiveitalian

    Xclusiveitalian TS Evangelist Posts: 706   +69

    Will this be another $1500 fee you won't want to pay but have to? No thanks! People won't want things monitoring them especially if it will be used as evidence against them even if there wrong. Id have it removed/not installed.
  17. Absolutely preposterous..!!! Why do they even use it in planes?!
  18. Ultiweap

    Ultiweap TS Enthusiast Posts: 606

    Wow this is explaining that cars is becoming dangerous with the use of technology inside. We though that it was an advantage but no it is an disadvantage in some cases.
  19. dummybait

    dummybait TS Rookie Posts: 45

    It's just another means of control... I for one, am against it...
  20. Gars

    Gars TS Booster Posts: 230

    another field for hackers to show off
    jailbreak for black box any1?
  21. LightHeart

    LightHeart TS Rookie Posts: 155

    The good:
    It could be used to help engineers learn how to make safer cars. It could help the insurance/safety industry to have more accurate information on accidents. It may help you prove your case in court. It may help you understand what exactly happened.

    The bad:
    It will add to the cost of the vehicle. The insurance industry could use it to raise your rates. It may help someone else prove there case in court against you.

    The ugly:
    The government may use it to pry into your life a little bit more.
  22. kyosuke

    kyosuke TS Rookie Posts: 47

    It's a good idea besides the GPS in a car is already writing down the places we go, how often we go and how far we really drive. So the intel chip would either help people win cases or help many real victims lose cases. Either way will be fun to see what intel comes up with.

    Hopefully car makers will not approve of it making Intel pissed off which will lead to Intel designing their own cars (like we really want)
  23. foreverzero89

    foreverzero89 TS Enthusiast Posts: 217

    another reason not to buy a new car.
  24. foreverzero89

    foreverzero89 TS Enthusiast Posts: 217

    fixed that for you.
  25. Zeromus

    Zeromus TS Booster Posts: 227   +7

    It's gonna be harder to transport contraband through vehicles through the use of forensic logging. Which is good, a good step towards a better life.
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