Intel's 10th-gen 18-core beats Core i9-9980XE by 11%, Ryzen remains faster

[Puiu]

To gain corporate and large enterprise business, AMD will have to keep this up for years. That's nice the 3900X and 3950X do everything for much cheaper. Most of those companies don't care about pricing as much as they do reliability and service.
Intel's long standing reputation will continue to hold for awhile, and the business sector is still dominated by their CPU's.
AMD would have to keep this up for half a decade just to get their foot in the door again on corporate/large business model implementation. Not trying to rain on their parade, but with contracts, business relationships and large scale computing, owners/CEO's and investors don't care about its 5% or 15% faster. Speed hasn't been an issue with large scale computing, todays desktop and server CPU's are more then enough for most business's.
No one is going to look at a few benchmarks and go 'OMG, we need to switch to AMD pronto'. Doesn't work like that.
Again, not trying to shade or demean AMD's awesome Ryzen conglomerate.

The pricing argument doesn't work in this situation where these server system also reduce the cost of cooling, space, and other hardware. The cost savings are huge and the client also gets more performance. It's no wonder that all of the big wigs in the IT industry are buying Epyc now.

 

[amstech]

The cost savings are huge and the client also gets more performance.

Performance isn't an issue.
Companies don't need to upgrade as much... even Intel's cloud revenues, without competition/on contract, slipped over 6%. That's a massive amount for a quarter.
Remember, Ryzen has been out since 2017, with the 1950X being released August 10th of that year. Only now, 2-3 years later are you seeing articles about real corporate change and a switch to Epyc. This is great news and personally, I am very proud of AMD's resurgence, even though I'm a fan of Intel's chips because of their gaming performance.
However I don't have much of a leg to stand on now, only the $350 range. That little 3600 for $200 is game-changing, world shifting CPU.

In the first quarter of 2019, Intel cloud computing business group's revenues slipped 6.3% on year, while those coming from enterprises and governments even dropped as much as 21%. As suppliers for the cloud computing datacenter segment are still clearing their inventory, and US-China trade tensions have created uncertainties, demand for datacenter servers has been decreasing since early 2019 and may cause Intel's datacenter business group to suffer its first on-year revenue decline in 10 years in 2019.

It's also a weird time with all of the imposed tariffs and changes with world trade. AMD's chips are made in California but I am sure they get product/material/service from overseas, next year with all these tariffs will be interesting.
I do see AMD climbing up the corporate spectrum, but it takes time.

 

[Puiu]

Performance isn't an issue.
Companies don't need to upgrade as much... even Intel's cloud revenues, without competition/on contract, slipped over 6%. That's a massive amount for a quarter.
Remember, Ryzen has been out since 2017, with the 1950X being released August 10th of that year. Only now, 2-3 years later are you seeing articles about real corporate change and a switch to Epyc. This is great news and personally, I am very proud of AMD's resurgence, even though I'm a fan of Intel's chips because of their gaming performance.
However I don't have much of a leg to stand on now, only the $350 range. That little 3600 for $200 is game-changing, world shifting CPU.



It's also a weird time with all of the imposed tariffs and changes with world trade. AMD's chips are made in California but I am sure they get product/material/service from overseas, next year with all these tariffs will be interesting.
I do see AMD climbing up the corporate spectrum, but it takes time.

Well duh!!! Who would upgrade to an unproven system when the first gen Epyc arrived? And major server upgrades only happen once every several years so it's normal for companies to only start doing it many years after the first Epyc CPU was launched.

And trust me when I say that performance is always an issue. There is never enough CPU performance, system memory, I/O, storage, etc etc, for the cloud services providers.

 

[Boricua4life]

Intel stuck with the 14nm for so long because there was no competition. This is a business. AMD has put it back together with Ryzen, but Intel sooner or later is gonna come back with a vengeance. I think that they had enough time to polish their new technology. So only time will tell.

 

[RobJoy]

unless Intel decides to radically re-evaluate their i9 pricing strategy

Show me one radical thing Intel has done in the last 10 years... There is a reason the company is steadily losing its market share.

The only RADICAL thing Intel is in the process of doing is going into the chiplet technology/design. Something AMD already has done and had a 2 year lead (3-4 by the time Intel comes out with their version).
Problem is Intel has no response for the present and foreseeable future (1 year at least).
End of 2019 when they launch their stacked SOCs and 10th gen chips they will be closer in closing the gap. But they will NOT be able to close the gap price wise. Which is a thing that can make or break a company nowadays.