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Judge lets Sony see identities of visitors to GeoHot's PS3 hacking site

By Emil ยท 73 replies
Mar 6, 2011
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  1. Darkshadoe

    Darkshadoe TS Guru Posts: 571   +112

    "To everyone talking about costs, Sony doesn't want money, they want legal precedent. Legal precedent is worth far more than whatever money they get here. "

    Exactly. If they set this precedent, a whole new world is going to open up to other industries.
  2. This is a great example of why server logs should be cleared out every week via automatic process. It is also the reason why more and more companies are moving their data centers out of the U.S. -- way too much USSR type of behavior from the corporate masters...
  3. stewi0001

    stewi0001 TS Evangelist Posts: 1,513   +900

    I dont care for hacking but isn't sony setting themselves up to get hacked?
  4. ramonsterns

    ramonsterns TS Enthusiast Posts: 744   +12

    Sony is setting themselves up to get spanked. Unless they have enough money to prevent it, which seems like they do.
  5. NeoFryBoy

    NeoFryBoy TS Rookie Posts: 72

    Haha. Looks like Geo is doing great in this court case. Welcome to capitalism. Enjoy it while it lasts.
  6. NeoFryBoy

    NeoFryBoy TS Rookie Posts: 72

    That analogy is backwards. Why would you rob your own house?
  7. yRaz

    yRaz TS Evangelist Posts: 2,146   +1,223

    what? where does it say anything about it being his house?
  8. I totally agree! This is going to do nothing more for Sony than prove how much of a bully they really can be when they don't get their way. Too bad they need to rely on the consumer to purchase their products. By pursuing everyone and anyone who viewed the video, downloaded the key, hacked their console, is only going to serve them with a "failure to appear in the marketplace" later on down the road! So I say to you Sony, is it worth all this? You do realize that your PS3 is an "idea" and what happens with everyone's idea? It becomes a "more improved and elaborated" idea usually administered by someone else further down the road. How the hell do you think we have the technology we have today Sony? If no one took or "stole" someone else's ideas and made them better, we'd still be living back in the ****ing stone ages with our fingers up each others asses and no video games to play! You have officially (whether you give a **** or not) lost another customer for good! Way to go!
  9. Oh ya, and another thing Sony! Maybe George should give the CEO of Nintendo a call to stand next to him in court and discuss how you're "Playstation Move Controller" isn't thievery from Nintendo's Wii controller! Such ****ing hypocrites!
  10. All you people against George Hotz need a ****ing reality check! Let's not forget that Sony specifically stated that their PS3 "console" was in fact a "PC" in order to introduce it into European countries! Isn't that deception? Also, wouldn't that lead to a case dismissal since the charges being filed have nothing to do with console gaming and in fact have everything to do with a PC? More information such as this needs to be parent to the consumers regardless of how minuscule the information is, seeing as most consumers don't understand the corporate worlds and how it works. Ween them in lightly and let them decide for themselves what sort of justice should be served! Also, like I said before, what about how Sony ripped off Nintendo's Wiimote by introducing their own Playstation Move controller expecting us all to believe it was their own idea.....WTF!!!! Who's the criminal in the matter now ****tards! Nintendo should have filed a lawsuit against Sony for patent infringement on that one!
  11. ramonsterns

    ramonsterns TS Enthusiast Posts: 744   +12

    That makes no sense.
  12. Cota

    Cota TS Enthusiast Posts: 513   +8

    Dont get me wrong, but Geo needs to understand some common sence so my call is to let SONY win this one, even tho theiy are a bunch of jerks.
  13. There is a difference between hacking your own machine and cracking somebody elses machine
  14. Tekkaraiden

    Tekkaraiden TS Evangelist Posts: 997   +93

    Wohoo I get to be part of a lawsuit and I don't even own a PS3.
  15. NTAPRO

    NTAPRO TS Evangelist Posts: 809   +102

    lol this would probably make more people visit the site xD
  16. I'm a bit confused. Some people say that since we paid for the PS3 already, we should be able to do whatever we see fit. However, looking through the PS3 License Agreement at:


    I don't see any mention about that. Besides, what we buy does not mean we own it because it a lot of cases, we only bought the right to use it which is the case here with the PS3. It even clearly states:

    "You do not have any ownership rights or interests in the System Software. All intellectual property rights therein belong to SCE and its licensors, and all use or access to such System Software shall be subject to the terms of this Agreement and all applicable copyright and intellectual property laws. Except as expressly granted in this Agreement, SCE and its licensors reserve all rights, interests and remedies."

    Sure we can shoot and burn the PS3 unit but anything related to hacking or disassembling is illegal according to the terms which is elaborated further in RESTRICTIONS of the agreement.

    Anyways, I still think this is a stupid case since Sony is using a lot of money on this right now although at the same time I can still see that the money is not what Sony is going for. Well this is going to hurt the homebrew community which is going to suck.
  17. " Most of you feel it's OK for GeoHot to hack into a PS3? Let the people who hack corporations and government agencies go free too."

    There is a HUGE difference between me buying a product which I now OWN and taking it home and doing ANYthing I want to do with and to MY property that I bought and OWN... and me hacking into someone ELSES' personal property and causing that OTHER person's property to be damaged or destroyed or stolen.

    F^#K Apple, M'Soft, Sony and all the other greedy @ssbags who are out to OWN YOU just because you bought and own one of their gadgets or toys.
  18. lchu12

    lchu12 TS Booster Posts: 195   +9

    lolz, please update if you really do.
  19. example1013

    example1013 TS Enthusiast Posts: 265

    Get some knowledge before you post ignorant statements like this. Try looking up a country called Nigeria to get some more info on how oil and gas thefts affect prices.

    Besides that, Sony's not threatening to sue people who hack their consoles. They're banning them from PSN. You have no right to PSN if you violate the EULA, as it's a free service Sony provides at their discretion.

    Sony's officially given up on completely stopping this, and the threats to sue websites who post the hack are in an attempt to try to slow the flood of people hacking their PS3s until Sony has a stable workaround to keep their services (PSN and such) and IPs (software and games) safe. It's just about reducing the number of outlets to provide damage control, because at this point that's all there is left to do.
  20. I Second that
  21. NeoFryBoy

    NeoFryBoy TS Rookie Posts: 72

    Both of which are illegal, and the reason why GeoHot is getting what he deserves.
  22. Thank you Sony, YOU pwned yourself!

    I won't be buying another $ony product ever again.
  23. There needs to be a way for these companies to be able to crack down on piracy while still allowing for homebrew development.
  24. actually the whole nigeria thing has nothing to do with gas and oil thefts and higher prices. That country is such embattled in war and warlords and killing of innocent people that it is the criminals such as the government and the warlords who are causing the prices to skyrocket to feed their pockets and continue their dictatorships. So before we go accusing someone of getting the facts wrong, you should check your sources.

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