July 08 Windows Update (KB951748) = No internet?

[kimsland]

I see, so ZA was the only program that helped users for the last 6 months, by protecting them against this MS flaw (that MS were aware of, but slowly remedeeing)

Then at last MS fixed the fault, and brought down ZA bandade.

Is that it?

I agree with MS slowness and awareness of security issues (past history has proven this)
But all other Firewalls, including the expensive Internet Securities out there. i.e. Symantec; Pc-Cillin; Kaspersky (huge world leaders in Internet Security) decided not to fix this fault (and help MS users), only little ol' ZA :haha:

Geewiz, the other security providers better call ZA for help !

Dont you think that MS, even if their actions is just changing a fundamental part of the O.S. which should respond according to international agreements, have a moral responsibility to inform everyone concerned, a much more if they made a unilateral change to the standard ?

Yes, but then again Windows is their software, a couple of years back they were talking about getting everyone to pay per anum for using their Windows !
So they do as they wish, but generally Windows works well for all.

 

[zipperman]

Learned something new

Go to google and type in the error.In this case,
(KB951748) = No internet
This Forum is #1

 

[CCT]

'If MS chose to alter the way these things work, then (a) there is a fault with the way Windows implemented them, or (b) they are unilaterally changing an international standard.'

You take a confusing stance on this subject (as far as I can see anyway):

a - noone had a problem, to my knowledge, OTHER THAN Zone Alarm users, so the problem wasn't incurred by MS$ operating systems

b - I rather doubt that MS$ changed the international internet in ANY way. They may have changed how THEIR product interfaces with that standard, but that is THEIR perogative.

 

[gbhall]

As you say, it is their prerogative. My beef is that lots of software houses choose to use the exposed calls to the O.S. fundamental facilities in their own software, and this is sensible (avoids duplication of fundamentals). Then when MS decide to change all that, to my mind they do have a moral requirement to inform others as required, and usually fail to do so.

BTW Comodo firewall also suffered. I'm sorry, CCT, I just can't stand their attitude. Maybe I'm too decent, and not American, and not always sympathetic to MS's business approach. I'll pipe down, and look for an alternative O.S.

 

[DelJo63]

gbhall and MS Reports:

Issue with ZoneAlarm
After you install this security update on a Windows XP-based computer or on a Windows 2000-based computer that is running ZoneAlarm, you may be unable to connect to the Internet.

Note This issue does not affect Windows Vista-based computers.

For more information about how to resolve this issue, visit the following ZoneAlarm Web site:
http://download.zonealarm.com/bin/free/pressReleases/2008/LossOfInternetAccessIssue.html

 

[Blind Dragon]

Furthermore - the update was to fix a known exploit that accidentally got posted on a forum then taken down quickly - but it didn't matter because people had already copied and spread the exploit - it involved DNS hijacking - so MS rushed out an update to fix the exploit, they actually worked with many other companies on the patches

That was my understanding on the issue and I applaud both Microsoft and Zone Alarm on their efforts.

“This is the largest synchronized security update in the history of the Internet, and is the result of hard work and dedication across dozens of organizations,”

Edit:
Full Article of what happened = http://venturebeat.com/2008/07/08/w...ve-effort-to-patch-fundamental-internet-flaw/

 

[gbhall]

Fascinating stuff, Blind Dragon. Concur with your assessment.

 

[nickc]

BTW Comodo firewall also suffered.

strange I was using Comodo through that and never had a problem whatsoever.