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Keeping an Open Mind

By almcneil ยท 31 replies
Oct 27, 2008
  1. momok

    momok TS Rookie Posts: 2,265

    Well, I simply don't see how,,, etc amongst many many other malware removal forums are not 'open-forums' but 'closed'.
  2. jobeard

    jobeard TS Ambassador Posts: 10,869   +903

    I would like to see the pushing and shoving to cease and all this energy spent on solving problems for users with less skills and/or experience.

    If one must play the King-of-the-Hill game, I suggest participation in the Internet News
    Groups -- they love and invite flame wars.

    PLEASE; Let's refocus our efforts to the goals of
  3. almcneil

    almcneil TS Guru Topic Starter Posts: 1,277

    If you don't like the "open forum" concept then join one of the sites you listed above.

    One of the reasons I like this site and that it gets good cross section of questions and it's "open forum" so I learn from others. I'm not afraid to admit I don't know everything. It's simply because no one knows everything. That's why we need "open forums".

    -- Andy
  4. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 14,523

    I have, I've joined them all

    Actually, this is the most important statement, it is true that in 99% of cases Virus\Malware threads are pointed to the proven Viruses/Spyware/Malware Preliminary Removal Instructions (just as all other forums have their own guide)

    I believe this is already the standard here (and elsewhere) it is just not forced here (whereas other forums do force this, before connecting to a real person)
    The main reason here I suppose is volume of membership, although it must be close now! It's true this is usually the first link I provide (and rightly so)

    At this stage it is not forced, but then again maybe it should be, as first "preliminary" step.

    I would also like to state that I did go against (ie not open) to your suggestions of Spybots S&D (and everything really) whilst the member was engaged in removing Virus\Malware (WITH ME) My concern was that if the member installed Spybots S&D this would cause any further removal process (including registry editing, or startup erradication) to be hindered, with Spybots (not always) displaying that a change was automatically halted from being performed.

    This is why the first step in the guide is to remove all resident protecting programs.
    But then you said to install it. Going totally against the removal proceedure (of which you have confirmed that have little respect for) And highly possibly causing support to be hindered in ridding any Virus\Malware infection.

    Another point about all this; just removing the infection is not completing the process, as there may still be underlying links allowing re-infesting (of which you have seen - no doubt!) Therefore part of the process is to also remove these entries. Being extremely difficult with you jumping in (with your "open mind"!) stating to a member that I was helping (and still in the middle of helping) and stating he must install Spybots S&D to fix their issue. Incredible! I advised you and the member not to do this, but then you reposted (over and over) that they must!

    This is incorrect of you.
  5. almcneil

    almcneil TS Guru Topic Starter Posts: 1,277

    Kim, you're doing it again.

    I never said to anyone they "must" do what I recommend. It's simply my recommendation!

    Again, you and Momok are rigid in this belief the TS guide for malware removal is only way to go. It's obvious from the way you respond to everything I'm saying.

    I'm saying, be "open minded". Anyone can post their recommendations and the originator can decide whose advice he/she wants to follow. That's it. All you and Momok keep replying with is "Andy, you're wrong!" and rant about it. That's being narrow minded and rigid in your "by the book" attitude.

    -- Andy
  6. Julio Franco

    Julio Franco TechSpot Editor Posts: 7,592   +965

    Please stop it. Closed.
  7. Per Hansson

    Per Hansson TS Server Guru Posts: 1,952   +203

    Andy, the biggest part of being in a community is getting the feel of said community
    If we all help towards a common goal then all will be well
    This is especially true in the Spyware removal section because it takes allot of time and dedication to do that kind of support
    And if you just jump in and post things that the majority of the rest of the community think is not correct you are simply not helping, and not being part of the community

    Remember we all do this for free and fun (Well, maybe not Julio, he actually has to pay for it!)
    So I ask you to please try to listen a bit more to the advice given by kimsland and others above in this thread
    Do consider this a warning
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