Lawsuit alleges Nest thermostats incorrectly measure temperatures, fail to save energy as advertised

By Shawn Knight · 24 replies
Mar 28, 2014
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  1. Smart thermostat maker Nest has been hit with a lawsuit from a Maryland man claiming the product is defective and users do not experience the advertised energy savings.

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  2. GhostRyder

    GhostRyder This guy again... Posts: 2,198   +593

    I will be accepting 5million on behalf of the other users having this issue.

    Fight the power!

    I guess I would have to see what they are talking about in all seriousness, it can't be that bad unless he got a very poor one.
  3. cartera

    cartera TS Evangelist Posts: 365   +113

    I know it's meant to serve a purpose but I would probably still get one, they look awesome! With it being owned by Google I would be worried however that it would project advertising around my home as I walked around.
  4. misor

    misor TS Evangelist Posts: 1,283   +242

    damn 'cool' apple products influencing consumers buying non-apple items! :)

    ...santa's little helper. :)
    although if it's a warranty violation, he can return the product for refund, replacement or repair, depending on warranty terms.
  5. veLa

    veLa TS Evangelist Posts: 781   +235

    I never saw what was so cool about these, my house's ventilation system already has an thermostat with an LCD that regulates the temperature.
  6. Jad Chaar

    Jad Chaar Elite Techno Geek Posts: 6,515   +974

    I dont really see how this could save power to the extent they are advertising. Good people are taking legal action against the false advertising.
    Last edited: Mar 29, 2014
  7. MilwaukeeMike

    MilwaukeeMike TS Evangelist Posts: 2,887   +1,223

    Ha, funny, but it's a class action lawsuit, so everyone who owns a Nest (and registered it) will get a letter in the mail telling them they can like $50 if they respond to the letter. The only ones who make a decent payday are the lawyers (surprise!).

    Maybe it's just me, but I think this is hilarious. It's like they skipped the testing of this product, which isn't really surprising considering what the CEO of Nest said about his products. He said in WIRED that he wants the purchase of a Nest smoke alarm or thermostat to be an 'emotional purchase'. Well... much like how some criticize Apple products, they score high on making you feel important and cool for buying them, but they fall short on value and function.
    St1ckM4n likes this.
  8. Yep, these things are a total marketing gimmick. They do look awesome, but I would never buy one. I mean how often are you having a party and hanging out near the thermostat so everyone can see how cool it is. LOL, usually people are in the kitchen or near the keg. :)
  9. EClyde

    EClyde TS Evangelist Posts: 1,301   +428

    I am sure the plaintiff is correct
  10. ikesmasher

    ikesmasher TS Evangelist Posts: 2,996   +1,317

    You dont see how something that automatically manages your AC system and disables/enables it automatically could save power? are you kidding?
    khha4113 likes this.
  11. Jad Chaar

    Jad Chaar Elite Techno Geek Posts: 6,515   +974

    I meant to the extent they are advertising. Wrong use of words. Sheesh you really like making people feel bad.
  12. It is very specific in it's use. It would save me nothing. The only way I can see how this thing might save you 3 cents is if there are large spans of time in which no one is home. Or in which the occupants don't mind sitting in a hot house. That is only the case with specific segments of the population. At least where I live. And in that case, why not just turn it off on the way out or set the temp high. I mean really.....
  13. ikesmasher

    ikesmasher TS Evangelist Posts: 2,996   +1,317

    Fair enough.
    XD sorry..
  14. Jad Chaar

    Jad Chaar Elite Techno Geek Posts: 6,515   +974

    Hahaha its all good man.
  15. veLa

    veLa TS Evangelist Posts: 781   +235

    Last time I checked thermostats already do this.
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  16. The reason why it saves energy is because most thermostats have a terrible UI and most people cannot program it properly. The nest thermostat makes it much easier, therefore energy can be saved. Make sense?
  17. Gamesinner

    Gamesinner TS Rookie Posts: 86

    Yay, the ambulance chasers find another potential cash cow. Everyone should be outraged by this BS. You reap what you sow people.
  18. ikesmasher

    ikesmasher TS Evangelist Posts: 2,996   +1,317

    I was going to initially respond to your post but decided against it, but...
    just because YOU have a special thermostat doesnt mean the rest of the world does. Ive been in ONE house that didnt have a generic thermostat.
  19. GhostRyder

    GhostRyder This guy again... Posts: 2,198   +593

    I know, I was just making a bad joke :p
  20. wastedkill

    wastedkill TS Evangelist Posts: 1,423   +350

    Hmm a thermostat that cant thermostat.
  21. KILLER

    KILLER TS Rookie

    I fail to see how this device can be compared to an ipod.
  22. ikesmasher

    ikesmasher TS Evangelist Posts: 2,996   +1,317

    incredibly simple looking I guess?
  23. St1ckM4n

    St1ckM4n TS Evangelist Posts: 2,922   +630

    Wait, so a super-expensive thermostat uses an in-built thermostat sensor?? Not an infrared beam that can measure further away from the unit?
  24. xenphibian

    xenphibian TS Rookie

    I have a similar device and it saves me HUGE amounts of money by allowing me to have a complex schedule that I can set from my phone. I can also change the settings from work or wherever if I forget (like to see someone do that with a generic thermostat). Mine happens to be a Honeywell, but the concept is the same.

    These devices also allow you to program them to respond to the weather forecasts and what not. This _is not_ just a thermostat.
  25. The "user interface" on every thermostat I've used in the last 20 years was pretty simple. High setting and low setting. Maybe you tinker with it twice a year. Oh, and the nest at least originally was selling for $250 - would take years to pay back even if it worked. Looks cool though. That's what's important, right?

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