Leaked Intel document shows Core i9-10900K with 30% performance gains over Core i9-9900K

[Irata]

STAR CITIZEN is my favorite game and the only one that will benefit the most out of that CPU. That game is coded to utilize as many CPU cores/threads as available as well as multi-GPUs, and also requires SSDs bandwidth. So the combination of high core count and single thread performance to get the most out of my Intel Optane 905P SSD 4k random read/write speeds will be perfect for my needs. And Optane only work with latest Intel motherboards.

If only someone made a CPU with more cores (say 16), offered more PCIe lanes from the CPU (20 instead of 16) and had double the bandwidth between the CPU and chipset for that second GPU...that should be the perfect CPU for your purposes.

 

[Mr Majestyk]

Who cares, I'm just waiting for Ryzen 4700x or 4900X especially impressed by the 50% fp improvements as I run a lot of math sims.

 

[PEnnn]

Majority of conusmers don't care about who has the lowest power consumption.

That's what I thought, till I saw a bunch of people right here denigrating AMD chips for high power consumption.....!!

 

[hahahanoobs]

But what does this mean? The sentence seems to imply that 250w is "required" for all cores to hit turbo. That makes zero sense.

Uncannily, 205W as listed in the article's document, for the 9900k is exactly what a stock 9900k will pull at the socket under full AVX load. The number then likely represents that maximum draw the CPU will allow before throttling the boost - allowing to maintain that number as a maximum. The sentence from the article seems to imply the opposite.

So expect that the 10900k will pull 250w under extreme loads before throttling all boosting - this lends to the reasoning that the platform may end up with two separate sockets (as I posted above) -- to keep pricing on mobos reasonable for the lower end.

Note that this is the first time most of us have ever seen that PL2 TDP number on Intel CPUs ... so the "95w" was a bit misleading, but with the extra "max" TDP of 205w thrown in the mix, everything is about exactly right, and with both numbers included, its actually more accurate than AMDs TDP numbers - which at least for Zen2 have been a bit out in left field.

You say quite a lot for not knowing what I mean.

 

[hahahanoobs]

Depends how it‘s marketed and shown in reviews. I have a very strong doubt that Intel will show the 250W in any ad or that this will appear next to the CPU‘s name in benchmarks.

Again, get clarification before assuming, because I have no idea what your even talking about. I don't think you do either.

The people I wrote it for know what I was talking about.

 

[JimboJoneson]

You say quite a lot for not knowing what I mean.

You assume I was responding to what you meant.

 

[Beerfloat]

That's what I thought, till I saw a bunch of people right here denigrating AMD chips for high power consumption.....!!

It sounds like a play on that age old staple of AMD Internet goon squad talking points; yes, their CPUs and GPUs do have really high power consumption but I don't care so noone should.

Now TSMC 7nm node advances have made AMD a bit more competitive in this area and all of a sudden of course it is a big thing.

 

[hahahanoobs]

You assume I was responding to what you meant.

I read what you wrote. You didn't.

 

[hahahanoobs]

Depends how it‘s marketed and shown in reviews. I have a very strong doubt that Intel will show the 250W in any ad or that this will appear next to the CPU‘s name in benchmarks.

Depends on what?! They've already made it official, so what are you talking about??? Not every spec has to be in the ad or marketing or on the box. Do you see ripple graphs on all the PSU's you buy? No. That's what tech sites and reviews are for. And we've just been informed....

Everything else you said had nothing to do with why I said what I said in my original comment. The two people that liked it know.

 

[GreenNova343]

As storage, Optane will work on any motherboard that has the required connector (I.e. PCI Express or M.2). Specific Intel boards are required for it to be used as Optane memory.


It's possible the newer chip can maintain a higher clock rate across all cores, compared to the 9900K, so with more cores and higher clocks, one can see how the SPEC base2006 results are up to 30% higher.

It's not much higher. Per the article:

And by using Thermal Velocity Boost, which requires a high-end cooling solution, the chip can hit a single-core frequency of 5.3GHz and reach 4.9GHz on all cores.

Without overclocking, the estimated top Turbo Boost for the 9900K with all cores is 4.7GHz...technically that's a 4.26% increase, not the 3% listed in the article, but if anything that means there was zero IPC improvement, with all of the improvements due to additional cores & the frequency bump.
-- 1.0425532 x 1.25 = 1.3031915, or a 30.32% increase

 

[Arbie]

Since more cores don't matter in "real world" use, this isn't much of an improvement.

 

[trparky]

I am also curious about the price...

I am too, I have a feeling that these are going to be hella' expensive!

 

[Mike E]

The thing about Intel is that I don't trust its numbers anymore.

I prefer to see real-world results from third-party testing.

 

[Irata]

Depends on what?! They've already made it official, so what are you talking about??? Not every spec has to be in the ad or marketing or on the box. Do you see ripple graphs on all the PSU's you buy? No. That's what tech sites and reviews are for. And we've just been informed....

Everything else you said had nothing to do with why I said what I said in my original comment. The two people that liked it know.

There's "making it official" in a tech brief and "making it official" on the box and in advertising. So far, all sites talked about 125W CPU. Not everyone reads tech sites.

If HP, Dell and others sell systems with it as 250W PC then it would be OK, but I doubt that.
To add: OEM will advertize / market systems based on what Intel tells them to,

 

[Markoni35]

If you're living next to a river, lake or ocean, cooling shouldn't be a problem.