Microsoft beats Amazon in bid for $10 billion Pentagon cloud-computing contract

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The Pentagon has decided to award its $10 billion cloud-computing contract to Microsoft instead of Amazon, despite the latter being favored to win out over its competitors. This project, dubbed the Joint Enterprise Defense Infrastructure (or JEDI for short), will require the contracted company to help the Department of Defense replace its existing computer infrastructure with one unified cloud-based solution.

With Microsoft's experience in this area (primarily through its Azure service), the company is far from a terrible choice. However, Amazon is certainly disappointed and feels it should have won instead.

If a "detailed assessment" based "purely on the comparative offerings" were performed, a "different conclusion" would have been reached, according to the retail giant. The Department of Defense, for its part, says its selection process was without prejudice, and all competitors were treated fairly.

While Amazon isn't too pleased with this news, President Donald Trump probably is. It's no secret that the President is one of Amazon's main detractors, and he's expressed his concern with the company's bid for the JEDI contract in the past.

The contract is expected to run over the course of a full decade, so Microsoft's cloud engineers certainly won't be hurting for work in the coming years. It remains to be seen whether or not Amazon will challenge the Department of Defense's decision, but if they do, we'll let you know.

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ShagnWagn

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I see no issue with putting our government's utmost critical and confidential information on a company with one of the worst privacy issues at all. We all know MS doesn't force telemetry and harvesting of data on Win10... or any of their other products. We can trust them, right?
 
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Squid Surprise

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I see no issue with putting our government's utmost critical and confidential information on a company with one of the worst privacy issues at all. We all know MS doesn't force telemetry and harvesting of data on Win10... or any of their other products. We can trust them, right?
And Amazon is such a paragon of virtue?

How about giving it to Facebook?

 

Karlos95

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I see no issue with putting our government's utmost critical and confidential information on a company with one of the worst privacy issues at all. We all know MS doesn't force telemetry and harvesting of data on Win10... or any of their other products. We can trust them, right?
Yes, because RETAIL and COMMERCIAL are completely the same products.

Besides, I'd trust MS more than the USA Gov. At least MS just want your data, not your rights.
 
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Uncle Al

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If Oracle had kept their cool and not filed suite they would have stood a lot better chance of getting it! I'm still happier that Microsoft beat out Amazon .... not a lot happier, but happier ......
 

mbrowne5061

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If Amazon actually thought they had a case, they would have already filed a protest - I mean, LHM, Boeing, and the others do it just to slow each down, never mind if they actually think they had the better bid. The fact that Amazon hasn't just means they are trying to save face with their investors who are likely unfamiliar with defense contracts.
 

JaredTheDragon

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This isn't a legal battle, this is a contract battle. There's no "filing a protest". The DoD and NSF "award" (siphon stolen money) to all kinds of enterprises and contractors, including NASA. Amazon can't "file a protest" - they can only actually protest, in the media or otherwise. That's not how military contracts work, people.
 

Yynxs

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Yes, because RETAIL and COMMERCIAL are completely the same products.

Besides, I'd trust MS more than the USA Gov. At least MS just want your data, not your rights.
It's difficult to get people that see the government as inherently evil to understand that the 'rights' they espouse are only protected as long the people are willing to enforce that protection. Microsoft, and all the others, don't give you any 'rights'. They are not elected. They are responsible only to people who want more money for their investment. You are the marketplace and the product.

With the government, you have a choice and an obligation and, most importantly, a path to make sure your Constitutional 'rights' are protected by the government for you. That does not exist in the private sector if the EULA is written properly.

Take the time to discover what the government is allowed to do, what it did, and what it is doing and what the tech megacorps are doing. Lots of people are working on reigning in the government's overreach, including some fumbling by the detested present Administration. Don't compare the two though. The government is (and should be) much weaker than you apparently know. The coastie megacorps are not.

btw: All the China social currency method uses is 'their data'. How's that working out for them? When would you like the same parameters to apply to you?
 

Karlos95

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It's difficult to get people that see the government as inherently evil to understand that the 'rights' they espouse are only protected as long the people are willing to enforce that protection. Microsoft, and all the others, don't give you any 'rights'. They are not elected. They are responsible only to people who want more money for their investment. You are the marketplace and the product.

With the government, you have a choice and an obligation and, most importantly, a path to make sure your Constitutional 'rights' are protected by the government for you. That does not exist in the private sector if the EULA is written properly.

Take the time to discover what the government is allowed to do, what it did, and what it is doing and what the tech megacorps are doing. Lots of people are working on reigning in the government's overreach, including some fumbling by the detested present Administration. Don't compare the two though. The government is (and should be) much weaker than you apparently know. The coastie megacorps are not.

btw: All the China social currency method uses is 'their data'. How's that working out for them? When would you like the same parameters to apply to you?
I think you need to realise just what the gov are up to. You only have to watch Ed Snowden with Joe Rogan Experience and he explains, every bad thing starts with the gov and the whole "you can vote them out" is actually incorrect to a certain extent.

Please go check out that interview and realise how corrupt and bad Gov's are.

At least with companies they have to adhere to their market place otherwise we stop giving them money, doesn't work that way with Gov. Don't like a Gov handles a certain thing, you have to move.
 

Yynxs

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I think you need to realise just what the gov are up to. You only have to watch Ed Snowden with Joe Rogan Experience and he explains, every bad thing starts with the gov and the whole "you can vote them out" is actually incorrect to a certain extent.

Please go check out that interview and realise how corrupt and bad Gov's are.

At least with companies they have to adhere to their market place otherwise we stop giving them money, doesn't work that way with Gov. Don't like a Gov handles a certain thing, you have to move.
I believe you are the one that has to realize what the government is up to. I read a ton of stuff both published about and from the government. You need to understand how government agencies, especially our intel and law enforcement, were being weaponized by past administrations to spy on and attack both political and regular US citizens. That is aside from regulatory agencies extending the public laws to mean whatever they want them to mean without repurcussions. This is not saying the imbedded bureaucrats in the same agencies are not trying to continue now, but much more daylight is penetrating into the recesses under our current administration and some of the more free press. None of that would occur without a free people changing their government by vote. This does not occur in private companies. Try changing or even suggesting Google (etc) or Microsoft should stop spying and selling your attention or face regulatory and/or legal action. The purchase of Congressionals at federal and local levels is as fun to watch as tossing meat in in a pool of piranha.

As for companies "...have to adhere to their marketplace...", that is based on a company making or building or providing a tangible product not stolen (and yes email, online storage, and digital media are tangible products in our new world). Your attention is a tangible product and has been so. Madison Avenue used to control and use specific psychological tricks to sell your attention. Psychological marketing is a college speciality and conscious-unconscious mechanisms to divert and change your thought processes to 'buy buy buy' are in use daily at large stores, especially food stores. (CBC Canada has some "exposes" on the subject for the uninitiated to watch) Google and the remainder are doing the same online and there is no 'just don't shop there' if you object.

My objections to Google (et al) remains. I don't want anything from them from advertising to security checking to validating whether I'm human. Yet I can't vote them out or avoid them because of their almost total penetration and alteration of the US privacy landscape and their wanton purchase of any competition. We did make changes to the excesses of the previous government by voting and those changes are resulting in less oppression right now. There will be changes to the tech controls of your attention, hopefully, shortly. You should take a hard hard look at the differences and the required controls and understand your real power of the vote.

My personal opinion is that Snowden was and is a traitor and should be shot after appropriate trial. In spite of our laws protecting his rights, he cannot undo and the public source of jurors cannot unsee his own admissions of guilt. He may apply for and attempt to get 'whistleblower' status, but that is just to protect his job and pay. Otherwise, you would do well to choose another 'hero'. I like Joe Rogan but I don't alway agree with him. As for what happened to Snowden, take a look at what happened to the Tea Party, cattle ranchers in the west, people that bought dry land and had that 'dry' status overturned, coal ash, mine waste, and on and on (yes that's both sides of government control). The government was not and is not fair. Neither are the techs. But we still have the ability to effect change in the government. We need to have the ability to effect change in the techs.