Microsoft: four million Windows 8 upgrades sold in four days

Lawfer, TechSpot Paladin, said: "
Your argument is inherently flawed."
Where do you leave, then, those who have tried it and loved it? I mean, according to you using it must be horrible, right? The combination of desktop + touch under one OS is indeed risky, but only because it's unconventional, not necessarily because it's inferior. Some people can handle this unconventionality and adapt, others don't. And that's fine. I'll go out on a limb here and say you fall in the latter category.
The unnecessarily verbose posts of yours tell me you really want to convince us Windows 8 is a "catastrophe." It won't be. Don't waste your breath. You have your reasons to hate it, fine.
But there are a number of sociological, psychological, and economical factors as to why it won't be a catastrophe. One of them is the the consumer's curiosity. "What is that laptop that turns into a tablet?" Second is, most consuners factor in the price of Surface RT tablets with Office included. The same could be said about someone who already has a tablet and decides to have the same experience on the desktop. Point is, hardware options are considerably more than Vista; MS' rate of penetration with highly differentiated hardware is higher than ever, especially in high tech markets such as Japan and India. Consumers buy and learn. That's not counting the 10+ million W8 upgrades already deployed to large businesses and the enterprise. You must be saying: "That can't be, touch doesn't work on the desktop!" That might be because using Windows 8 with mouse and keyboard is just fine. Different, but not a dealbreaker.
Hell, Vista was bad in the beginning, and it still sold millions. Did it have a bad reputation? Yes. But that didn't stop MS.
MS genuinely believes in Metro. That should scare you, because it means that Windows will never be the same, for better or worse. The trick here is that, lucky for MS, millions and millions of people fall in, you know, the former category."
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My argument is that replacing a mouse and a keyboard (which is ultimately what Microsoft wants to do - lets be honest) with the same index finger, that you pick your nose with, and expecting a person to be productive is ridiculous. Now, explain by example please, how my argument is inherently flawed?
Most of the people who have tried it and love it are people who love 'new'. The reasons I hear for loving Windows 8 are lame and unconvincing. The most monotonous reason people I hear from the lovers of 'new' is that Windows 8 boots faster. That has nothing to do with the interface. The percentage of time people spend booting their computers is about 1% compared to about 99%. All the reasons people praise Windows 8 just aren't convincing or compelling, however, I would have probably already upgraded to Windows 8 if I had no idea about the interface that was in store for me.
Just for comparison, my last message was about 5 paragraphs, which was almost the same size as your reply. My paragraphs aren't verbose just for the hell of it. They are verbose because I meticulously read every word that people write when they try and defend their reasons for believing that everybody should everybody upgrade to Windows 8 because a few nerds who can't control their insatiable addictions to having the latest and greatest software, no matter its flaws. It's the nerd power users who are vehemently defending Windows 8 the most. Why? Because they want to feel secure in the decision that they have made. If you love it so much, enjoy, knock yourself out. :)
I've made my decision. I am sitting this one out. In 3 years, when Microsoft releases Windows 9 I'll give it a serious look depending on what I am seeing and hearing through the grapevine. The world isn't going to end if I do not upgrade. Life goes on. I have patience and I have no interest in upgrading to Windows 8.
I could understand Moms and Pops, teenage girls who wants to browse facebook, and causual users liking this move. What makes me want to puke is all the nerds who are dropping their pants and bending over for anything Microsoft releases. It really is disgusting.
And the last thing I would like to say is that Gabe Newell said Microsoft's Windows 8 was a catastrophe, not me. He's a billionaire. You want me to give his words a second thought.

Yes, let's not be verbose. :D
 
I only have two devices running Windows 8 a tablet and netbook.. I test the Preview version had faster access of data from the I/O. TCP/IP improvements over current Windows 7 is a plus. But most of that that does you can do in Windows 7. Windows 9 and Windows 10 should change the GUI again. Windows 8 has both the old way GUI and new way with the tiles. To me if you really want to go with Windows 8 you need to change out that old non-touch monitor and get a touchscreen monitor for it. The new features with info dialog are cool and not subject to the tiny little pop-ups in the system tray as bubbles. In all nice features. I am just waiting for all other hardware manufacturers to play catch-up.
 
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My argument is that replacing a mouse and a keyboard (which is ultimately what Microsoft wants to do - lets be honest) with the same index finger, that you pick your nose with, and expecting a person to be productive is ridiculous. Now, explain by example please, how my argument is inherently flawed?

Most of the people who have tried it and love it are people who love 'new'. The reasons I hear for loving Windows 8 are lame and unconvincing. The most monotonous reason people I hear from the lovers of 'new' is that Windows 8 boots faster. That has nothing to do with the interface. The percentage of time people spend booting their computers is about 1% compared to about 99%. All the reasons people praise Windows 8 just aren't convincing or compelling, however, I would have probably already upgraded to Windows 8 if I had no idea about the interface that was in store for me.

Just for comparison, my last message was about 5 paragraphs, which was almost the same size as your reply. My paragraphs aren't verbose just for the hell of it. They are verbose because I meticulously read every word that people write when they try and defend their reasons for believing that everybody should everybody upgrade to Windows 8 because a few nerds who can't control their insatiable addictions to having the latest and greatest software, no matter its flaws. It's the nerd power users who are vehemently defending Windows 8 the most. Why? Because they want to feel secure in the decision that they have made. If you love it so much, enjoy, knock yourself out.
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I've made my decision. I am sitting this one out. In 3 years, when Microsoft releases Windows 9 I'll give it a serious look depending on what I am seeing and hearing through the grapevine. The world isn't going to end if I do not upgrade. Life goes on. I have patience and I have no interest in upgrading to Windows 8.
I could understand Moms and Pops, teenage girls who wants to browse facebook, and causual users liking this move. What makes me want to puke is all the nerds who are dropping their pants and bending over for anything Microsoft releases. It really is disgusting.

And the last thing I would like to say is that Gabe Newell said Microsoft's Windows 8 was a catastrophe, not me. He's a billionaire. You want me to give his words a second thought.
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The mouse and keyboard work just fine on both Metro and the desktop. If you had used it you'd probably understand this. The user would just need to get into their program of choice or simply work on the desktop, that's it. It is that simple. Want to make it out to be more difficult than it is, than keep on having decisions made for you by listening to the nay sayers just because you hold a grudge against those who are willing to use a new operating system.

File History, Printing, Graphics Hardware Acceleration, Microsoft Account Integration, Windows Explorer, Windows To Go, Hyper-V Client, Fast Boot Times, Performance, Skydrive Integration, Malware Protection, Large Disk Support, Storage Spaces, Setup Experience, Fewer Restarts, Power Management, New Task Manager, Windows Store, Picture Password, PC Reset and PC Refresh, Internet Explorer 10 and many more reasons to upgrade. Some of these will be for the power user and some geared toward making the experience easier for the common everyday user, with more optimizations under the hood.

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Sorry, but Gabe Newell makes statements to make money. The Windows Store is a direct threat to his business model. Yes, you should probably use critical thinking when determining what someone says as truth.
 
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My argument is that replacing a mouse and a keyboard (which is ultimately what Microsoft wants to do - lets be honest) with the same index finger, that you pick your nose with, and expecting a person to be productive is ridiculous. Now, explain by example please, how my argument is inherently flawed?

Most of the people who have tried it and love it are people who love 'new'. The reasons I hear for loving Windows 8 are lame and unconvincing. The most monotonous reason people I hear from the lovers of 'new' is that Windows 8 boots faster. That has nothing to do with the interface. The percentage of time people spend booting their computers is about 1% compared to about 99%. All the reasons people praise Windows 8 just aren't convincing or compelling, however, I would have probably already upgraded to Windows 8 if I had no idea about the interface that was in store for me.

Just for comparison, my last message was about 5 paragraphs, which was almost the same size as your reply. My paragraphs aren't verbose just for the hell of it. They are verbose because I meticulously read every word that people write when they try and defend their reasons for believing that everybody should everybody upgrade to Windows 8 because a few nerds who can't control their insatiable addictions to having the latest and greatest software, no matter its flaws. It's the nerd power users who are vehemently defending Windows 8 the most. Why? Because they want to feel secure in the decision that they have made. If you love it so much, enjoy, knock yourself out.
prekesh-happy.png


I've made my decision. I am sitting this one out. In 3 years, when Microsoft releases Windows 9 I'll give it a serious look depending on what I am seeing and hearing through the grapevine. The world isn't going to end if I do not upgrade. Life goes on. I have patience and I have no interest in upgrading to Windows 8.
I could understand Moms and Pops, teenage girls who wants to browse facebook, and causual users liking this move. What makes me want to puke is all the nerds who are dropping their pants and bending over for anything Microsoft releases. It really is disgusting.

And the last thing I would like to say is that Gabe Newell said Microsoft's Windows 8 was a catastrophe, not me. He's a billionaire. You want me to give his words a second thought.
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The mouse and keyboard work just fine on both Metro and the desktop. If you had used it you'd probably understand this. The user would just need to get into their program of choice or simply work on the desktop, that's it. It is that simple. Want to make it out to be more difficult than it is, than keep on having decisions made for you by listening to the nay sayers just because you hold a grudge against those who are willing to use a new operating system.

File History, Printing, Graphics Hardware Acceleration, Microsoft Account Integration, Windows Explorer, Windows To Go, Hyper-V Client, Fast Boot Times, Performance, Skydrive Integration, Malware Protection, Large Disk Support, Storage Spaces, Setup Experience, Fewer Restarts, Power Management, New Task Manager, Windows Store, Picture Password, PC Reset and PC Refresh, Internet Explorer 10 and many more reasons to upgrade. Some of these will be for the power user and some geared toward making the experience easier for the common everyday user, with more optimizations under the hood.

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Sorry, but Gabe Newell makes statements to make money. The Windows Store is a direct threat to his business model. Yes, you should probably use critical thinking when determining what someone says as truth.

Five words would have done...
 
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"The mouse and keyboard work just fine on both Metro and the desktop. If you had used it you'd probably understand this. The user would just need to get into their program of choice or simply work on the desktop, that's it. It is that simple. Want to make it out to be more difficult than it is, than keep on having decisions made for you by listening to the nay sayers just because you hold a grudge against those who are willing to use a new operating system.

File History, Printing, Graphics Hardware Acceleration, Microsoft Account Integration, Windows Explorer, Windows To Go, Hyper-V Client, Fast Boot Times, Performance, Skydrive Integration, Malware Protection, Large Disk Support, Storage Spaces, Setup Experience, Fewer Restarts, Power Management, New Task Manager, Windows Store, Picture Password, PC Reset and PC Refresh, Internet Explorer 10 and many more reasons to upgrade. Some of these will be for the power user and some geared toward making the experience easier for the common everyday user, with more optimizations under the hood.

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Sorry, but Gabe Newell makes statements to make money. The Windows Store is a direct threat to his business model. Yes, you should probably use critical thinking when determining what someone says as truth."
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MY REPLY:

Keep on listening to the naysayers? I am the naysayers. Windows 8 is schizophrenic. "Am I a tablet OS or am I a desktop OS?. Sometimes I feel like a nut and sometimes I don't." When it figures out wants it wants to be 3 years from now, I'll give it a second look. Bottom line is there is no pressing reason for anybody to upgrade to Windows 8 other than nerds who wants to be on the bleeding edge of technology, no matter how flawed that technology may be.

All the bullet points you listed for purchasing Windows 8 are as lame as hell I must say. I guess you were going for quantity of bullet points versus substance. Large disk support? LOL. Power Managememnt? LOL. Picture password? LOL. Yeah that's good if you work in the department of homeland security. If your a normal person all you have to do is pick a password that is 8 characters or longer and you'll be just fine. Malware protection? LOL. Your killing me with these bullet points bro. Enjoy your Windows 8 OS.

Just purchased my first 128GB SSD which I'll be installing Windows 7 Ultimate on. I think I'll be alright on boot times for the next 3 years.

Good Job on dropping your pants and bending over for the Microsoft Machine, nerds!!!! LOL.
 
Those figures are propped up by changes in licensing:

* an upgrade offer to upgrade from all versions (including non-pro and OEM) to Pro for $40.
* all promotions are done in a much wider set of countries.

In the past promotions were typically either USA only, or USA and a few of the larger European countries (UK,Germany, France, in that order).

Now, probably because for market they need to create direct selling channels in ALL markets, those promotions are for many more countries (all EU ones e.g., not just the biggies), and I assume that is the same elsewhere in the world.

This will all make comparing initial sales figures hard.
 
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