Millions of Gen Z are jobless – are useless university degrees to blame?

[Liranan]

These people need to get their masters in underwater basket weaving with a concentration (what on earth is a concentration?) in gay Latin dog dancing.

The only thing universities teach now is self-victimisation, professional victim playing and feminism. They are indoctrination machines for kids who have no idea what a woman is and are illiterate compared with previous generations.

 

[wiyosaya]

Actually, that's not how it used to work. The term back then was grading on a curve, not a scale, specifically, a bell curve. While the curve did shift up and down the scale, it didn't result it everyone getting 90% or better. The vast majority scored in the middle, with the higher and lower scores tapering down to very few students.

This also would not mitigate the current trend of "dumbing down the test" so that a turnip can score an A.

As I see it, this is splitting hairs. The net result of such grading, whatever it is called and however it is implemented, is to lower the bar for a passing score. And this type of grading was going on when I was in a top US university in 1978.

 

[Unsub99]

Now that the woke thing is finally dying a degree in grievance studies isn't worth much.

 

[wpontius]

I know I am older (68) and Old Fashioned so the idea of personal responsibility is also out of fashion. Why take responsibility for our actions (picking a college I couldn't afford, getting a degree that had no job path, taking out loans you had no ability to repay, etc., etc.) when blame on someone else or that big, rich (large endowment ______) university.

I worked hard, got outstanding grades in High School, received a full Scholarship for college, worked my way through my Masters, and had a very full & active life & now have a comfortable retirement.

It's not too late to train for a real job (Einstein once said "If I wasn't a great scientist I would have been a Plumber".

Get off your fat, lazy a** and get a job - almost every place in my town has openings @ $15-19/hour.

Almost every place in my town has openings that prefer or require a degree and these are menial, manual labor jobs; fast food, warehouse work, inventory counting, non-management retail, janitorial...etc. I am within 10 years of your age and looking for work, I struggled in high school for a variety of reasons. Have some college work but no degree and even having experience in many of these jobs I am not considered because I don't have a degree. In my area jobs posted only hours ago can have 100+ applicants. One 'no experience required' records filling job I applied for had 62 applicants. I respect your opinion, but you can't assume all and everyone is as you experienced or is as you see it where you are now.

 

[candle86]

At your age a min wage job afforded to keep up a whole family on a single income affording a house, car, sending kids to college and other luxuries.

Something the older generations dont understand is cost of living now days. its not about being lazy. Statistics show the american work day is getting longer, not shorter.

College costs went up x1000 wages have remained stagnant. Save me your archaic understanding of how the world works (and we are not too far off in age).

I also worked hard. I started working at the age of 12, 4 days a week to afford clothes and food. I graduated at the top of my high school class. There were no scholarships, there was no affording college, it was work work work. Working hard is meaningless. The poorest people are amongst the hardest working people. The only thing wealthy folks have in common is they got lucky. Hard work guarantees absolutely nothing anymore. Selling that story is a massive lie that is so easy to poke through.

And I am doing fantastic now. I have a comfortable life style. Hard work helped, but nobody who gets to where you and I are did it on hard work alone. We got lucky.

Why do older generations always think newer generations are lazy when they had it so frigging easy... You were compensated, you had a government working for you and your cost of living was a fraction of what it is today while making the same wages as folks today.

You need to do your history homework again because the minimum wage most definitely did not. Minimum wage was enough to pay for a really cheap apartment you'd save up and buy really cheap used car you want to go out to eat you just save up the money and that was that if you think people are working two jobs back in the '80s to make ends meet you're nuts That's Sierra where the latchkey get started was a late '70s early '80s AKA the boomers entering adulthood. And why is that because they needed time to make a better salary than minimum wage you started needing to paychecks back then give me a break stop believing the myth that you're told.

Now what I do know is I Lost my job with the 2008 housing market crashed and I lost my job (residential concrete company not a lot of work when nobody's buying a house) what I also know is I busted my butt I worked hard at anything I could mostly day labor, I self-studied and got myself certifications in IT. In 2010 I got my first job for this field making $350 a week/$8.75hr Or 18,200 if you want to be specific. Entry level position at a small mom and pop shop I work there for 6 months I got another job where they paid me $10, still wasn't making a lot of money but I kept doing the job building my resume from their landed a job for $17 an hour and after that I went to a salary position at $44,000 a year and I just kept climbing kept pushing myself and kept trying. Hard work got me exactly where I am so stop pretending that's not the solution The problem is and I'm willing to wager this fact so many people would look at that first job I took for 875 an hour or I couldn't even pay my own bills by myself and go I'm not working for that little. Well that's on you grow up

At the time I had two roommates neither one I got along with and one work fast food the other work retail, and then we had the owner of the house because I was hurting a bedroom in his house for 400 bucks a month and it wasn't exactly in a good neighborhood to get to that job that paid me that $8 an hour I walked 2 mi there and 2 mi back everyday 5 days a week. I didn't have a cell phone couldnt afford one didn't have a landline either because again I couldn't afford one now part of my rent included Wi-Fi thankfully so I had a Google voice number and that's how I would talk to people they'd call my Google voice number and I'd answer it on the computer but if I wasn't at home youd just have to leave me a voicemail on my computer and Id look at it later.

For groceries I went down The local church that had a food pantry and I got some food that way combining it with a grocery store run one of my roommates had a car so we could go grocery shopping except the guy who in the house and give us access to the refrigerator so whatever I have had to be a dry good and well I had access to the stove it was only during specific hours that didn't really work with my schedule so I mostly ate things out of cans.

Was like pleasant or fun no did I enjoy any of it not really is it how I got my start in this career Yes and the way I see it if you're not willing to put in that level of work and that level of effort you don't have a right to complain

 

[Win7user]

What a lot of trash comments - sorry guys, my usual rant coming

Typical of many of you boomers

Remember in the 1960s, 1970s you could walk out of a job tuesday morning and have a new job same day

Remember when a labourer and stay at home mum could buy a roof over your heads

Remember when you didn't need crazy amounts of experience

A degree , any degree got you a job in a bank , corporation etc

Easy to crap over the young today , but this is the USA you chose . Reagan first and Trump second . Where you the worker exists solely to make a few people very rich

What job security now , unless mission critical etc

Hell DOGE hates middleclass professionals providing govt services. people who take pride looking after paks , caring for Vets , keeping your skies safe, your resources pure

Yet typical failing MAGA need 10 trans people competing in sport to blame , Immigrants who commit less crimes than them , Govt workers who got science degrees who are all so la de da

Stop being w***kers and acting so superior , many of us had it easy. Apprentices. career paths etc

Yes the young have yo be smarter etc . I hope they break free and make up their own economy


Even if now a great engineer , bean counters say too many , say moving to another State, to another country , out source , AI can do your job

Bet you all think you never goofed of at work on friday afternoon . No us MAGA heads down always working , didn't even go to the toilet on THE MANs time.

Have some honesty please

Pretty sure none of you worked during great depression

Congrats won't be many gandkids except in welfare RED states

If young in your country can't become new middleclass except with huge parental help and legups , it does not bode well

Least you will get 5 new car factories built in The USA next month , so just need to wait till May for them to come of the production line , I"d thought June , but MAGA here told me with now no red tape it will be very quick

Wow. Spoken like a true radical leftie.

 

[candle86]

Wow. Spoken like a true radical leftie.

What you cant expect them to take responsibility for themselves already even do a little bit of research on the topic that they're commenting on because if they did they'd realize what they're talking about is wrong so very wrong.

 

[Jarenien]

Gen Z'ers are just lazy af, that's why they are jobless. They need to put as much effort into their careers as they do into fortnite, and they'd be millionaires.

 

[daffy duck]

This is a tech site. Please take your political nonsense elsewhere.

Right on cue, maga is triggered. You really hate facts don't you.