Moore's Law isn't dead according to AMD, but it has changed

[Jack77]

Wafer costs have gone up but relative to size if the chip, the silicon chip doesn't actually cost that much on a bill of materials.

Indeed, a 25% price hike on a $50 chip does not justify several hundreds extra for a card.

 

[Red34jfp]

Well Mr.Bear, if you think this article was a "sh!tpost", it seems to me more likely you simply forgot to light a match when you farted in the bathroom.

The x30 Nvidia series cards have always been serviceable cards, for the purpose for which they were intended. Which BTW, isn't to make you king of the hill in a pro gamers contest.

The GT-1630 is more capable than the GT-1030, which of course you'd likely consider beneath your dignity as well. It also introduces 4 GB of GDDR6 It's utility could be as a mild hardware accelerator for photo editing, low res gaming, (Agreed it's not a "console killer"), and a workaday card to "take a load off", an older IGP.

The price at present is outrageous. However I saw them at Newegg @ $150. so they may come down as volume sales increase. (That's a big "maybe", though). The GT-1030, at the end of its run went for about $100.

Were you to need a card for those purposes today, you would be better out buying one of AMD's lower end cards which are being blown out ATM. But, make up your mind quickly, I doubt they'll be around forever.

Still, the GT-1630 is not a bad card, nor the article a "sh!tpost".

The problem isn't whether it's a bad card, of course it is a bad card, the problem is nitpicking a single example of genuinely terrible card and ironising about the "usually good products" that Nvidia makes. This sets a terrible tone for the rest of the article, which keeps nitpicking at Nvidia's issues while neglecting, for instance, that AMD has also significantly raised prices this generation, even if not much as Nvidia's (not having Nvidia's market share being the likely reason, not charity or good will). And for that matter it conveniently forgets that AMD made semi-pointless GPUs with no generational improvement like the RX 6500XT. Both were belated attempts at milking the crazy GPU market, quite simply.

 

[Avro Arrow]

Jensen Huang was just giving a lame and disingenuous excuse for why he wants to personally bend customers over to.... well, whatever it is that keeps them coming back over and over again.

In the end, it doesn't matter because people are basically stupid and make decisions that are against their own best interests.

I'm actually starting to be interested in just how much abuse that nVidia owners are willing to take from nVidia before they grow a brain and/or a spine. I actually want to see nVidia's next halo card with an MSRP of $3000USD. At this point, they might as well do that because it's clear that there's no shortage of people who will screw themselves just to have a green card.

 

[Ray Holt]

It NEVER was a law, only an observation. Those that keep saying "Law" are ignorant of history.

 

[neeyik]

It NEVER was a law, only an observation. Those that keep saying "Law" are ignorant of history.

I guess Moore himself is somehow ignorant too, given that he's clearly aware that it's not a scientific law but an empirical observation, but still happy to call it 'Moore's Law'.

 

[captaincranky]

The problem isn't whether it's a bad card, of course it is a bad card, the problem is nitpicking a single example of genuinely terrible card and ironising about the "usually good products" that Nvidia makes.

Well, I think we've reached a point of semantic impasse here. I GT-1660 isn't a "terrible"card. It's a mediocre card, with limited utility in the realm of gaming. Being a obvious successor to the GT-730 & GT-1030. it simply doesn't have the punch to be used for gaming, period. So why fools on YouTube insist on reviewing it with gaming demonstrations, I have no clue.

The GT-730 & GT-1030's utility comes as an upgrade to older Intel IGP and probably AMD APUs as well. It could probably offer mild hardware acceleration to photo editing, but not video rendering. I can imagine someone's frustration at trying to render 4K video with it.

What is "terrible", even "horrific", is the price point. Considering the GT-1030 cost about $100., $180. is outright customer abuse.

OK, so the 1630 has 4 GB of Vram, double that of either the 730 or the 1030. Given the $100. price tag of the 1030, and the fact I just bought a 730 for $59, the upper limit for the 1630's price, even adjusted for inflation. the most I'd be willing to pay for the GT-1630 is $130, and not a penny more.

 

[captaincranky]

I guess Moore himself is somehow ignorant too, given that he's clearly aware that it's not a scientific law but an empirical observation, but still happy to call it 'Moore's Law'.

"Moore's Law", has always appeared to be a takeoff on the old story of the vagabond who went into the palace begging for work. He's asked by the prince, "we haven't much money, so what would you take as wages"? To which the vagabond replied, "well your highness, practically nothing. I only ask for a penny a day, doubled each day for a month".

OK, boyz and gurlz, go do some figurin'.

 

[captaincranky]

Jensen Huang was just giving a lame and disingenuous excuse for why he wants to personally bend customers over to.... well, whatever it is that keeps them coming back over and over again.

As someone who watches OTA TV, the amount and frequency of HIV "prep", and "suppression" drug ads, is startling, if not shocking.

In this context, I would have to say the number of people who do relish the idea of being "bent over", is rather common place. One could even consider it a "lifestyle".

 

[Avro Arrow]

As someone who watches OTA TV, the amount and frequency of HIV "prep", and "suppression" drug ads, is startling, if not shocking.

In this context, I would have to say the number of people who do relish the idea of being "bent over", is rather common place. One could even consider it a "lifestyle".

Sure, but seriously, would you want someone like Jensen?!

 

[captaincranky]

Sure, but seriously, would you want someone like Jensen?!

Truth to tell, I would prefer a natural blonde female, whose lineage traces from the Ural or Caucasus region.

So I guess you could say that's a "limp no", to Huang.

Those aforementioned ads have gotten so repulsive, I now not only have to hit the "mute" button, but close my eyes as well.

 

[Avro Arrow]

Truth to tell, I would prefer a natural blonde female, whose lineage traces from the Ural or Caucasus region.

I must admit, you have phenomenal taste in women!

So I guess you could say that's a "limp no", to Huang.

You don't want Jensen's "BIG HUANG"? He'll be so heartbroken..... Well, I guess as long as you keep buying green cards he'll manage to get through the rejection.

Those aforementioned ads have gotten so repulsive, I now no only have to hit the "mute" button, but close my eyes as well.

I never understood why it's considered ok to advertise prescription drugs in the USA. Like, that's just asking for trouble.

 

[human7]

It NEVER was a law, only an observation. Those that keep saying "Law" are ignorant of history.

By definition, a law only ever is an observation (in this context: the economic, scientific, or academic one). Nobody was claiming a legislative mandate or a divine force making it so.