Musk's Twitter ambitions receive first reality check, courtesy of the EU

[AlaskaGuy]

Nothing. What's wrong is when you people take an honest election and lie about its validity. With zero proof. Look, I realize lying and just being general suckers is built in with you people, but you aren't supposed to be so obvious about it.

And there we have it. I can't prove you are wrong when you lie to me, and that's what you did. You believe a bullshit claim absolves you.

The fact remains, though. Ivermectin is a bigger joke than the Qpublicans are.
And that is saying something.

Who's against having to show a valid photo ID in order to vote.

 

[scavengerspc]

Who's against having to show a valid photo ID in order to vote.

Americans. Real ones. We have to ID ourselves when we register.
Go vote, show the voter's card, all good.

Besides. Guess who is against photo voter ID cards. You get one try.
That by itself kind of laid the righties cards on the table.

And who are the ones that want to say a school photo ID isn't acceptable?
Oops!

 

[mailpup]

Back on topic please. Thank you.

 

[Ludak021]

Actually, article 10 of the European Convention on Human Rights, which is ratified by almost all European nations and all EU members, specfically states 'Everyone has the right to freedom of expression.'. But you knew that, right? You wouldn't just be blowing smoke, surely.

Where there's smoke, there's fire.
Yes, everyone can and has a right to speak. That's not what "freedom of speech" means, and you know that.

Recent perfect example of what I am saying is EU shutting down Russian media outlets and censoring their programming. On top of that, confiscating their assets.
"freedom of speech" 101.

 

[Michiel]

And what some people are, apparently, NOT AWARE of is that MUSKY is planning on still having the censoring.

Besides, those of us do not have memberships to Tweeter, Fakebook, or other social media sites really DGAF what those who do believe about Tweeter, currently, or after MUSKY gets his ignorant hands on it, are doing to the poor people crying Muh freedumb of speech!

You sound like a mature individual.

 

[Michiel]

Where there's smoke, there's fire.
Yes, everyone can and has a right to speak. That's not what "freedom of speech means", and you know that.

Recent perfect example of what I am saying is EU shutting down Russian media outlets and censoring their programming. On top of that, confiscating their assets.
"freedome of speech" 101.

Not sure what your point is. If you're a free speech "absolutist" (as in: you actually believe in the principle of free speech) then you should be against these EU crackdowns and simply trust that people in the EU, on the whole, are smart enough to see through Russia's bullshit. If people want to watch RT I'm sure they can find a way to watch RT.
And of course, verifiably false (or impossible to verify as true) pro-Ukraine propaganda is not censored.

But true free speech as a principle is not something that is really ingrained in EU politics or even the European culture generally, not like in the US anyway. In the EU there's still (for some reason) a lot more trust that politicians know what's best for us, we can trust them to "do the right thing" and we should just let them get on with it.

Personally I certainly would never trust the EU politicians to stand up for the principle of free speech, even (or particularly) when it comes from our adversaries. but then I wouldn't really trust US politicians on that either. But I certainly would trust conservatives and libertarians (like Musk) more with it than progressives. Even Musk has already clearly stated that he hopes that his strongest criticasters remain on the platform. That is how it's supposed to work. But for some reason all the Musk haters are convinced that he's gonna ban everyone who says something bad about him because some guy got fired from Tesla once for posting stuff online that they (not Musk personally, just his bosses at Tesla) thought he shouldn't have.

 

[Michiel]

Yeah, it's pretty bad. I was a big fan of Halo last year, but the combination of seeing how 343 runs their forums and Infinite being a big disappointment totally turned me off from the franchise.

Most gaming websites seem to have a very strong liberal bias. Like Kotaku.

I'm sure you'll find that 99% of the "journalists" working on sites like that are left wingers, even though their audience is probably much more 50/50 split. But that's the whole thing with everything. Teachers? 99% vote left, but the parents who send their children to schools are more like 50/50. Journalism in general? 90% left (wouldn't be surprised if a majority of FOX news employees vote Democrat). Hollywood? You know the answer.
There was this graphic of percentage of campaign donations from big tech employees per party and it was for the most part 90 to 99% (Netflix) donating to Democrats, even though, again, probably the audience or users of these services and platforms are much more representative of the country as a whole, so roughly 50/50 left/right. That's why there's such a huge disconnect between our cultural institutions, tech/comms/online infrastructure, education and journalism and the actual people using those things.