Need help convincing

[RobynProw]

My family is willing to spend 500USD on a new PC for me. I already have a gpu(1660 ti), but they keep denying my knowledge on PC parts. I have informed them that ryzen CPUs all have the same socket, and 90% of the AM4 motherboards can support any processor. They keep turning me down on any partlist I show them. I am wanting a computer pretty good at video editing, but also useful for casual games. The only parts I need are CPU, Mobo, ram, and maybe SSD. Preferably a cpu that has a stock cooler too(ie not ryzen 1700x or 1800x)

 

[neeyik]

It may be a case that your family are just unfamiliar with the brand AMD, which is not surprising seeing how so many TV adverts play the 'Intel jingle'.

But you can always try showing these prices:

AMD Ryzen 2600 retail version (I.e. comes with a stock cooler) - $120

AMD RYZEN 5 2600 6-Core 3.4 GHz Desktop CPU Processor - Newegg.com

Buy Used - Like New: AMD Ryzen 5 2nd Gen - RYZEN 5 2600 Pinnacle Ridge (Zen+) 6-Core 3.4 GHz (3.9 GHz Max Boost) Socket AM4 65W YD2600BBAFBOX Desktop Processor with fast shipping and top-rated customer service. Once you know, you Newegg!

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MSI PRO B450M PRO-M2 motherboard - $75

MSI PRO B450M PRO-M2 V2 AM4 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - Newegg.com

Buy MSI PRO B450M PRO-M2 V2 AM4 AMD B450 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard with fast shipping and top-rated customer service. Once you know, you Newegg!

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CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 16GB DDR4 - $75

CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 16GB DDR4 Desktop RAM - Newegg.com

Buy CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Desktop Memory Model CMK16GX4M2B3200C16 with fast shipping and top-rated customer service. Once you know, you Newegg!

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SAMSUNG 860 EVO Series 2.5" 1TB - $130

SAMSUNG 860 EVO Series 2.5" 1TB SATA III V-NAND 3-bit MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-76E1T0B/AM - Newegg.com

Buy SAMSUNG 860 EVO Series 2.5" 1TB SATA III V-NAND 3-bit MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-76E1T0B/AM with fast shipping and top-rated customer service. Once you know, you Newegg!

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So all in, that comes to $400, saving your family $100. Then show the nearest Intel equivalent, I.e. 6 core, 12 thread CPU 3.4 - 3.9 GHz.

Intel Core i7-6800K - $320

Intel Core i7-6800K - Core i7 6th Gen Broadwell-E 6-Core 3.4 GHz LGA 2011-v3 140W Desktop Processor - BX80671I76800K - Newegg.com

Buy Intel Core i7-6800K - Core i7 6th Gen Broadwell-E 6-Core 3.4 GHz LGA 2011-v3 140W Desktop Processor - BX80671I76800K with fast shipping and top-rated customer service. Once you know, you Newegg!

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The rest of the items could be sourced for the Intel platform at the same price. Yes one can purchase a 6 core Intel CPU for less than $320:

Intel Core i5-9400F - $155

Intel Core i5-9400F Coffee Lake 6-Core 2.9 GHz (Turbo) LGA 1151 Desktop Processor - Newegg.com

Buy Intel Core i5 9th Gen - Core i5-9400F Coffee Lake 6-Core 2.9 GHz (4.1 GHz Turbo) LGA 1151 (300 Series) 65W BX80684I59400F Desktop Processor Without Graphics with fast shipping and top-rated customer service. Once you know, you Newegg!

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But it's still more money that the Ryzen 2600. Then to help show that a CPU that can cope with lots of threads is best for video editing, show them the following:

https://www.cgdirector.com/best-computer-for-video-editing/ - old but shows that more cores is better
https://www.techsiting.com/best-processors-for-video-editing/ - note the number of Ryzen chips suggested

Ultimately though, the people paying the bill get the final say, so if they want an Intel system, then that's what you'll have to go with. It'll be fine, of course, but not as good as using the 2600 (which is one of the best CPUs AMD have produced, for the money, for a very long time).

 

[Evernessince]

My family is willing to spend 500USD on a new PC for me. I already have a gpu(1660 ti), but they keep denying my knowledge on PC parts. I have informed them that ryzen CPUs all have the same socket, and 90% of the AM4 motherboards can support any processor. They keep turning me down on any partlist I show them. I am wanting a computer pretty good at video editing, but also useful for casual games. The only parts I need are CPU, Mobo, ram, and maybe SSD. Preferably a cpu that has a stock cooler too(ie not ryzen 1700x or 1800x)

Gather some benchmarks from credible sources and put together a presentation showing the advantage of an equally price AMD system over the Intel system. Make sure to include sources. With the added cost of the CPU, CPU cooler and motherboard, the AMD system should be much cheaper. If the opinion of professionals won't convince them, nothing will. If your family doesn't care about saving money, give them a $500 AMD build that beats the Intel system in performance. Something like the 3600 (which I just saw on sale for $175) won't loose to an i5 9400F in gaming and it will stomp it in everything else.