Neowin reviews Windows 8.1

cliffordcooley

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There are alternatives to MS. Apple, Linux and Chrome off the top of my head. Linux would be my first choice as it is not locked down.
Yes and out of those three choices, Linux is the only one I would consider. It just so happens, I am considering Linux. The problem with that though is I now have to learn a whole new environment, and non of my most used applications work outside of Windows. So all in all changing to spite change will be a greater hassle. Thanks for the suggestion though, but if we can ***** our way into getting MS back on track, I'll prefer doing it that way.
 

Railman

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Yes and out of those three choices, Linux is the only one I would consider. It just so happens, I am considering Linux. The problem with that though is I now have to learn a whole new environment, and non of my most used applications work outside of Windows. So all in all changing to spite change will be a greater hassle. Thanks for the suggestion though, but if we can ***** our way into getting MS back on track, I'll prefer doing it that way.
You could do what I did and have dual booting on a PC. It was quite a revelation seeing the contrast between Windows XP and Debian. I aways knew that Windows was bloated and slow but seeing the difference on the PC has convinced me that Linux will be on my next PC. Dual booting gives you access to your legacy software whilst you master the alternatives.
 

Skidmarksdeluxe

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There are alternatives to MS. Apple, Linux and Chrome off the top of my head. Linux would be my first choice as it is not locked down.

Ok here's the thing. I do use Win 8.1 and I'm not as down on it as a lot of people are but I doubt very much whether we'll ever see a OS like Win 7 ever again. Over time people adapt to new OS's then they'll say "it's not so bad". It's human nature to fight change but change is inevitable.
Apple & iOS are not an option for me, I'd rather go back to using an abacus for computing, a Wells Fargo stagecoach for mail and a Nokia 5110 for a cellphone. Thank God for other alternatives.
 

Railman

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Thanks to my better half we now have an Apple Mac. I personally would not have chosen to buy one but it was her choice. Of course muggins here has had the job of transferring data and email settings to the Mac and despite my reservations I am impressed with it. I did not realise that the OS is built upon Unix which does seem to be pretty quick compared to Windows.

Time will tell if I remain impressed but I can see why the Apple Mac is desirable to many. It does look pretty cool compared to a standard PC.
 

cliffordcooley

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Pretty sure you won't since you already have your opinion on it. 75% of the time my second monitor was not used, but with 8.1 I have news, weather, Reddit, messages, ebay, and email being pushed to it while doing most of my surfing on the main monitor.
Which is nothing you can not do in Windows 7.
 

pmcardle

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I'm amazed by all of the comments that W8/8.1 is for touch devices only and doesn't work well for desktops. Obviously these same people must have never used W8/8.1 on a desktop or only used it for a very short period of time. I've been using it exclusively since it first came out in beta, upgraded for $40, then just updated again to 8.1. All on a desktop with a 30" Dell Ultra "non-touch" monitor. My PC runs exactly like it did under W7 except more efficiently and with the added benefits of some very cool free apps that I occasionally use.

I'm now waiting for the Surface Pro 2, 256 GB to be released on Dec-15 so I can have a real PC table and give the over-priced iPad 3 toy to my wife (her iPad 1 died). IMO, MS has pulled off something that no other OS/PC vendor has done. They created a truly multi-platform OS. It has had some growing pains but again it was a totally new OS and will only get better with age. I feel very fortunate because I'm happy with MS and their new OS. I do understand that some will resist no matter what and get so frustrated that they would even punch something, and for that I feel sorry for them...NOT! LMFAO
 
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I'm amazed by all of the comments that W8/8.1 is for touch devices only and doesn't work well for desktops. Obviously these same people must have never used W8/8.1 on a desktop or only used it for a very short period of time. I've been using it exclusively since it first came out in beta, upgraded for $40, then just updated again to 8.1. All on a desktop with a 30" Dell Ultra "non-touch" monitor. My PC runs exactly like it did under W7 except more efficiently and with the added benefits of some very cool free apps that I occasionally use.

I'm now waiting for the Surface Pro 2, 256 GB to be released on Dec-15 so I can have a real PC table and give the over-priced iPad 3 toy to my wife (her iPad 1 died). IMO, MS has pulled off something that no other OS/PC vendor has done. They created a truly multi-platform OS. It has had some growing pains but again it was a totally new OS and will only get better with age. I feel very fortunate because I'm happy with MS and their new OS. I do understand that some will resist no matter what and get so frustrated that they would even punch something, and for that I feel sorry for them...NOT! LMFAO

NO! NO! NO! Its only a tablet OS on a desktop. :p

Dave
 

Railman

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I'm amazed by all of the comments that W8/8.1 is for touch devices only and doesn't work well for desktops. Obviously these same people must have never used W8/8.1 on a desktop or only used it for a very short period of time. I've been using it exclusively since it first came out in beta, upgraded for $40, then just updated again to 8.1. All on a desktop with a 30" Dell Ultra "non-touch" monitor. My PC runs exactly like it did under W7 except more efficiently and with the added benefits of some very cool free apps that I occasionally use.

I'm now waiting for the Surface Pro 2, 256 GB to be released on Dec-15 so I can have a real PC table and give the over-priced iPad 3 toy to my wife (her iPad 1 died). IMO, MS has pulled off something that no other OS/PC vendor has done. They created a truly multi-platform OS. It has had some growing pains but again it was a totally new OS and will only get better with age. I feel very fortunate because I'm happy with MS and their new OS. I do understand that some will resist no matter what and get so frustrated that they would even punch something, and for that I feel sorry for them...NOT! LMFAO
I have only just migrated from XP to 7 a year ago and I found W7 not to be as configurable as XP. W8 is acknowledged to be less configurable than W7 by many IT professionals. Your view of W8 seems to be very much in the minority.

You might accuse me of not liking change but I did take the plunge and installed Linux which is a radical departure from Windows. I frankly do not see any substantial reason to spend any of my hard earned money on W8.
 
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I never considered 'upgrading' to Windows 8 from my 'perfect' windows 7. I was forced to use windows 8 on work because we all got that OS with new computers. It took me quite some time to get used to new start menu. Damn, it was awful. So many useless tiles/icons that I never asked for, and every time I install new program my start menu gets tons of new useless icons that I never wanted there. Windows 8.1 fixed that, and once I sorted icons and tiles I need, I found new start menu to be quite nice. I bought new desktop computer recently and installed 8.1. I don't regret it. It super fast and just love my 5 second boot time (SSD). I was amazed. Windows 8.1 has it's flaws but some pros over windows 7 makes it worth it.
 

pmcardle

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I'm amazed by all of the comments that W8/8.1 is for touch devices only and doesn't work well for desktops. Obviously these same people must have never used W8/8.1 on a desktop or only used it for a very short period of time. I've been using it exclusively since it first came out in beta, upgraded for $40, then just updated again to 8.1. All on a desktop with a 30" Dell Ultra "non-touch" monitor. My PC runs exactly like it did under W7 except more efficiently and with the added benefits of some very cool free apps that I occasionally use.

I'm now waiting for the Surface Pro 2, 256 GB to be released on Dec-15 so I can have a real PC table and give the over-priced iPad 3 toy to my wife (her iPad 1 died). IMO, MS has pulled off something that no other OS/PC vendor has done. They created a truly multi-platform OS. It has had some growing pains but again it was a totally new OS and will only get better with age. I feel very fortunate because I'm happy with MS and their new OS. I do understand that some will resist no matter what and get so frustrated that they would even punch something, and for that I feel sorry for them...NOT! LMFAO
I have only just migrated from XP to 7 a year ago and I found W7 not to be as configurable as XP. W8 is acknowledged to be less configurable than W7 by many IT professionals. Your view of W8 seems to be very much in the minority.

You might accuse me of not liking change but I did take the plunge and installed Linux which is a radical departure from Windows. I frankly do not see any substantial reason to spend any of my hard earned money on W8.

First off, anyone who upgraded from XP to W7 within the last year should not be allowed to comment on W8 for at least another 5 years. Also, 80% (or more) of postings are from people who want to complain. It's called human nature. I would bet that I'm not the minority you may think! I'm just one of the 20% of posters who thinks positive and will take the time to give good feedback when it's deserved.
 

Railman

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[quote="pmcardle, post: 1353346, member: ]

First off, anyone who upgraded from XP to W7 within the last year should not be allowed to comment on W8 for at least another 5 years. Also, 80% (or more) of postings are from people who want to complain. It's called human nature. I would bet that I'm not the minority you may think! I'm just one of the 20% of posters who thinks positive and will take the time to give good feedback when it's deserved.[/quote]
Taking your argument to its logical conclusion you should not be permitted to post about W8 for the next 4 years ;)

Anyway what is bad about negative feedback when it is aimed at MS? They are the market leader but have failed big time in considering their customers.