New GC

I take it that this discussion is over? Anything else I should know before I commit?
 
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spartanslayer said:
What exactly were you trying to prove with that last post? The link you gave shows that the 6800 ultra and 6600GT gave incredible performance on Doom III. They also school the ATI cards in Chronicles of Riddick, Pacific Fighters, and The Sims 2. They nearly tied the ATI cards in Unreal Tournament. Granted the ATI cards win Half-Life 2, but that is only one game out of the 6 that are there. Considering that the 6000 series of cards is much cheaper than the X800 series, I think you just proved my point for me. Thanks! Also this chart doesn't have the 7800GS on it. Dont try telling that PCmark is a valid test. It may be a good benchmarking program, but it doesn't corrolate to games very well.
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Nvidia has been better at openGL, ATi has is better at direct3D. ATi's new drivers are much better than the ones used in that old chart. Doom3 is openGL. If linux is your thing Nvidia is the best choice. I though that chart was very good toward ATi, most of the time top three were ATi cards. Even the FX5950xt out did the 6800ultra once-in a Half Life2, a drectx game I think. :slurp:
spartanslayer said:
the Geforce cards smash them everywhere else.
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Even Doom3 is less than smashig.
 
spartanslayer said:
The 6800GS is a really good card. If possible, don't get an ATI card. They don't have the best features, and their performance isn't as great per dollar. The 6800GS is best, and then the 6800XT. Good Luck.
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The visual quality on ATI cards PWNS nvidia tho...

spartanslayer said:
Granted it is fast, but the 6800GT is muc better. And even though I don't agree with you about ATI vs Nvidia, lets not start a war over that right now. Are you sure that you can't afford a 7800 AGP. They are really good.
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Damnit, i like wars
 
Actually, this kind of discussion is good. At least for me :D

Clears things up, and for people who follow, its a treasure trove of information.
 
Okay, just FYI, I have bought the Sapphire X800XT.

I've spent more or less the whole day fiddling with it, and will post my results here.

Some basics:
This card comes clocked at 500/500. I'm surprised it comes at this low clock, since I think I read somewhere that Gigabyte's clock at 525, but I can't seem to find that article again to verify it.

My PC:
P4 2.8Ghz (fitted with Tt golf 325 (?) and Tt UFO)
2 x 512gb PC2700 RAM Kingston (can't be sure exactly which model)
Gigabyte GA8IPE1000
Sapphire X800XT

The rest shouldn't really matter should it? Anyway, didn't change much from the data entered on my details (haven't updated to the X800XT yet), so check it out there.

Also added a 67CFM 120mm fan.


Overclocking:

I did some overclocking, and ran PCMark 2005.
PCMark settings: 4xAA 4xAF 1024x768 3xrepeat(averaged) all tests except CPU tests to save time.

Results:
<Changes>: <Max GPU Temp> <PCMark score>
No OC: 71 4394
P4 3.3Ghz, 534/507: 72 5025
P4 3.3Ghz, 549/516: 76 5000

To me, those results are weird. I have this very bad feeling I'm being bottlenecked by my CPU. I will edit this posting after boosting my CPU again.

p.s. RAM frequency not locked.
 
I like wars too! In fact, I plan on becoming an Officer in the US Army when I graduate from college. But I don't really feel like prolonging this conversation. He already got a card anyway.
 
I have a x800gto, It will only do 470/570. At that clock It does 5048 in 3dMark05 with my rig:

Asus P5P800
540 DO at 3.8 ghz
2x512 pqiPOWER 2.5-3-3-7 5:4


I did get alot more out of my cards memory, but it's4 pipe lines short of your XT. More CPU would help you. That's not 800mhz FSP p4 you have?
 
spartanslayer said:
I like wars too! In fact, I plan on becoming an Officer in the US Army when I graduate from college. But I don't really feel like prolonging this conversation. He already got a card anyway.
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Good luck in the Army, Sir. God bless you.
 
Thanks Mirob. That actually means a lot to me. I've been told by a lot of people that if I join the army they will think of me as a murderer. But I know that I will be preventing people from murdering them. Thank you for supporting the army. Thanks again. And I admit it, ATI is a good company, SOME OF THE TIME! See yah!

PS. It's also nice to see other Christians around this forum. I was begining to feel lonely. God Bless You.
 
I'm back with more results.

Okay, more info about my RAM:
Yes, it is an 800mhz m/b, unfortunately its been marred greatly by my RAM.
PC2700, timings: 2.5-4-4-8

I found out that the max my CPU can go is 3.36ghz. RAM goes to 374mhz. Not sure which is stopping my clock speed now, the CPU or RAM. I'm betting on the RAM, since upping CPU voltage does jack-o. I've upped RAM voltage 0.1V already, and not really willing to go any higher.

So the next 2 results are based on CPU speed of 3.36ghz.

549/516: 77 5158
551/551: 78 5301

I'm not very sure how high I can push the card, being a brand new card, I don't really want to burn it :D

ATI tools pushed core to 581 before crashing, and about there for mem too.


Next on my shopping trip:
Antec TP2 PSU
2x512gb CL2 PC3200
Northbridge Chipset cooler
Arctic Silver 5
Arctic Cooling Silencer ATI4 Rev2 (which has run out from the local shop :dead:)
 
Just to update, I played around with my new card a little more, and managed to find an upper limit for both card and CPU. I also changed the RAM to a Corsair Twinx1024 4400cl25.

Here's the excel printout for the 3dmark2k5 score.

Benchmark
Width 1024
Height 768
Anti-Aliasing 4 sample AA
Anti-Aliasing Quality 0
Texture Filtering Anisotropic
Max Anisotropy 4
VS Profile 2_0
PS Profile 2_b
Force Full Precision No
Disable DST No
Disable Post-Processing No
Force Software Vertex Shader No
Color Mipmaps No
Repeat Tests 3 times
Fixed Framerate Off
3DMark Score 5479 3DMarks
GT1 - Return To Proxycon 23.9 FPS
GT2 - Firefly Forest 16.2 FPS
GT3 - Canyon Flight 27.2 FPS
Fill Rate - Single-Texturing 3766.6 MTexels/s
Fill Rate - Multi-Texturing 8615.7 MTexels/s
Pixel Shader 109.8 FPS
Vertex Shader - Simple 66.7 MVertices/s
Vertex Shader - Complex 48.5 MVertices/s
8 Triangles 5.2 MTriangles/s
32 Triangles 19.4 MTriangles/s
128 Triangles 79.5 MTriangles/s
512 Triangles 95.0 MTriangles/s
2048 Triangles 103.3 MTriangles/s
32768 Triangles 107.0 MTriangles/s
Manufacturer Intel
Family Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz
Architecture 32-bit
Internal Clock 3325 MHz
Internal Clock Maximum 3325 MHz
External Clock 20 MHz
Socket Designation Socket 478
Type Central
Upgrade ZIF Socket
HyperThreadingTechnology Available - 2 Logical Processors
Capabilities MMX, CMov, RDTSC, SSE, SSE2, PAE
Version Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz
VGA Memory Clock 567 MHz
VGA Core Clock 567 MHz
 
i heard the x800 is really good
# SAPPHIRE 100131L BLUE Radeon X800GTO 256MB GDDR3 AGP 4X/8X Video Card - Retail

Chipset Manufacturer: ATI
Core clock: 400MHz
D-SUB: 1
DirectX: DirectX 9
DVI: 1
Memory Clock: 980MHz
Memory Interface: 256-bit
OpenGL: OpenGL 2.0
PixelPipelines: 12
TV-Out: HDTV/S-Video/Composite Out
# Model #: 100131L BLUE
# Item #: N82E16814102042

I wanna buy it..but canada is annoying. i wish we had something like NEWEGG :(:( if anyone knows of store in Vancouver BC selling this particular card please let me know!
 
so would guys recommend this card over the x800 GTO
TI Radeon X850 Pro 500MHZ 256MB 256BIT GDDR3 AGP Video Card?
 

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