New GC

By CMH ยท 39 replies
Feb 13, 2006
  1. CMH

    CMH TechSpot Chancellor Topic Starter Posts: 2,039   +9

    I take it that this discussion is over? Anything else I should know before I commit?
  2. Mirob

    Mirob TechSpot Paladin Posts: 478

    Nvidia has been better at openGL, ATi has is better at direct3D. ATi's new drivers are much better than the ones used in that old chart. Doom3 is openGL. If linux is your thing Nvidia is the best choice. I though that chart was very good toward ATi, most of the time top three were ATi cards. Even the FX5950xt out did the 6800ultra once-in a Half Life2, a drectx game I think. :slurp:
    Even Doom3 is less than smashig.
  3. MetalX

    MetalX TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,388

    The visual quality on ATI cards PWNS nvidia tho...

    Damnit, i like wars
  4. CMH

    CMH TechSpot Chancellor Topic Starter Posts: 2,039   +9

    Actually, this kind of discussion is good. At least for me :D

    Clears things up, and for people who follow, its a treasure trove of information.
  5. CMH

    CMH TechSpot Chancellor Topic Starter Posts: 2,039   +9

    Okay, just FYI, I have bought the Sapphire X800XT.

    I've spent more or less the whole day fiddling with it, and will post my results here.

    Some basics:
    This card comes clocked at 500/500. I'm surprised it comes at this low clock, since I think I read somewhere that Gigabyte's clock at 525, but I can't seem to find that article again to verify it.

    My PC:
    P4 2.8Ghz (fitted with Tt golf 325 (?) and Tt UFO)
    2 x 512gb PC2700 RAM Kingston (can't be sure exactly which model)
    Gigabyte GA8IPE1000
    Sapphire X800XT

    The rest shouldn't really matter should it? Anyway, didn't change much from the data entered on my details (haven't updated to the X800XT yet), so check it out there.

    Also added a 67CFM 120mm fan.


    I did some overclocking, and ran PCMark 2005.
    PCMark settings: 4xAA 4xAF 1024x768 3xrepeat(averaged) all tests except CPU tests to save time.

    <Changes>: <Max GPU Temp> <PCMark score>
    No OC: 71 4394
    P4 3.3Ghz, 534/507: 72 5025
    P4 3.3Ghz, 549/516: 76 5000

    To me, those results are weird. I have this very bad feeling I'm being bottlenecked by my CPU. I will edit this posting after boosting my CPU again.

    p.s. RAM frequency not locked.
  6. spartanslayer

    spartanslayer TS Rookie Posts: 394

    I like wars too! In fact, I plan on becoming an Officer in the US Army when I graduate from college. But I don't really feel like prolonging this conversation. He already got a card anyway.
  7. Mirob

    Mirob TechSpot Paladin Posts: 478

    I have a x800gto, It will only do 470/570. At that clock It does 5048 in 3dMark05 with my rig:

    Asus P5P800
    540 DO at 3.8 ghz
    2x512 pqiPOWER 2.5-3-3-7 5:4

    I did get alot more out of my cards memory, but it's4 pipe lines short of your XT. More CPU would help you. That's not 800mhz FSP p4 you have?
  8. Mirob

    Mirob TechSpot Paladin Posts: 478

    Good luck in the Army, Sir. God bless you.
  9. spartanslayer

    spartanslayer TS Rookie Posts: 394

    Thanks Mirob. That actually means a lot to me. I've been told by a lot of people that if I join the army they will think of me as a murderer. But I know that I will be preventing people from murdering them. Thank you for supporting the army. Thanks again. And I admit it, ATI is a good company, SOME OF THE TIME! See yah!

    PS. It's also nice to see other Christians around this forum. I was begining to feel lonely. God Bless You.
  10. CMH

    CMH TechSpot Chancellor Topic Starter Posts: 2,039   +9

    I'm back with more results.

    Okay, more info about my RAM:
    Yes, it is an 800mhz m/b, unfortunately its been marred greatly by my RAM.
    PC2700, timings: 2.5-4-4-8

    I found out that the max my CPU can go is 3.36ghz. RAM goes to 374mhz. Not sure which is stopping my clock speed now, the CPU or RAM. I'm betting on the RAM, since upping CPU voltage does jack-o. I've upped RAM voltage 0.1V already, and not really willing to go any higher.

    So the next 2 results are based on CPU speed of 3.36ghz.

    549/516: 77 5158
    551/551: 78 5301

    I'm not very sure how high I can push the card, being a brand new card, I don't really want to burn it :D

    ATI tools pushed core to 581 before crashing, and about there for mem too.

    Next on my shopping trip:
    Antec TP2 PSU
    2x512gb CL2 PC3200
    Northbridge Chipset cooler
    Arctic Silver 5
    Arctic Cooling Silencer ATI4 Rev2 (which has run out from the local shop :dead:)
  11. CMH

    CMH TechSpot Chancellor Topic Starter Posts: 2,039   +9

  12. CMH

    CMH TechSpot Chancellor Topic Starter Posts: 2,039   +9

    Just to update, I played around with my new card a little more, and managed to find an upper limit for both card and CPU. I also changed the RAM to a Corsair Twinx1024 4400cl25.

    Here's the excel printout for the 3dmark2k5 score.

    Width 1024
    Height 768
    Anti-Aliasing 4 sample AA
    Anti-Aliasing Quality 0
    Texture Filtering Anisotropic
    Max Anisotropy 4
    VS Profile 2_0
    PS Profile 2_b
    Force Full Precision No
    Disable DST No
    Disable Post-Processing No
    Force Software Vertex Shader No
    Color Mipmaps No
    Repeat Tests 3 times
    Fixed Framerate Off
    3DMark Score 5479 3DMarks
    GT1 - Return To Proxycon 23.9 FPS
    GT2 - Firefly Forest 16.2 FPS
    GT3 - Canyon Flight 27.2 FPS
    Fill Rate - Single-Texturing 3766.6 MTexels/s
    Fill Rate - Multi-Texturing 8615.7 MTexels/s
    Pixel Shader 109.8 FPS
    Vertex Shader - Simple 66.7 MVertices/s
    Vertex Shader - Complex 48.5 MVertices/s
    8 Triangles 5.2 MTriangles/s
    32 Triangles 19.4 MTriangles/s
    128 Triangles 79.5 MTriangles/s
    512 Triangles 95.0 MTriangles/s
    2048 Triangles 103.3 MTriangles/s
    32768 Triangles 107.0 MTriangles/s
    Manufacturer Intel
    Family Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz
    Architecture 32-bit
    Internal Clock 3325 MHz
    Internal Clock Maximum 3325 MHz
    External Clock 20 MHz
    Socket Designation Socket 478
    Type Central
    Upgrade ZIF Socket
    HyperThreadingTechnology Available - 2 Logical Processors
    Capabilities MMX, CMov, RDTSC, SSE, SSE2, PAE
    Version Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz
    VGA Memory Clock 567 MHz
    VGA Core Clock 567 MHz
  13. zazazoom

    zazazoom TS Rookie Posts: 84

    i heard the x800 is really good
    # SAPPHIRE 100131L BLUE Radeon X800GTO 256MB GDDR3 AGP 4X/8X Video Card - Retail

    Chipset Manufacturer: ATI
    Core clock: 400MHz
    D-SUB: 1
    DirectX: DirectX 9
    DVI: 1
    Memory Clock: 980MHz
    Memory Interface: 256-bit
    OpenGL: OpenGL 2.0
    PixelPipelines: 12
    TV-Out: HDTV/S-Video/Composite Out
    # Model #: 100131L BLUE
    # Item #: N82E16814102042

    I wanna buy it..but canada is annoying. i wish we had something like NEWEGG :(:( if anyone knows of store in Vancouver BC selling this particular card please let me know!
  14. Mirob

    Mirob TechSpot Paladin Posts: 478

  15. zazazoom

    zazazoom TS Rookie Posts: 84

    so would guys recommend this card over the x800 GTO
    TI Radeon X850 Pro 500MHZ 256MB 256BIT GDDR3 AGP Video Card?
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