Next-gen Xbox details leaked, from someone who claims to have one

Per Hansson

Per Hansson

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The AMD Bulldozer architecture is quite weak at FPU calculations, which are very important for many games. Ontop of that it has a very low clockspeed, which is also important in many games...
Well, I should clarify and say current games, my hope is that if the consoles ship with such hardware game engines will be rewritten to take better advantage of it, also helping PC gaming (well, the console ports to PC that is, but today that is like 99% of PC gaming)
 
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Sunny87

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I think the development SDK will also have more RAM than the retail so if you have 8GB in the dev console expect 4GB or less in the retail system.

And lets be honest here, I was kinda right about the systems being not that much different this time around, the Wii U, 720 and PS4 will all have similar looking games, like PS3 and 360, and before anyone says yeah but the Wii U GPU is not as powerful well the PS3 GPU sucks compared to the 360's and look at the difference in games, hardly any.

But to be honest if it does feature those security features I'll be buying new gaming PC parts over the 720 any day and just get all my games on STEAM.
 
TS-56336

TS-56336

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Hmm. Aside from the processors as I'm not really able to figure out what comparable PC specs are to that, my off-the-shelf PC right now meets or exceeds those specs in every respect except for GPU. I'm no expert on pricing, I'm sure I could fish up decent deals but if I'm looking at this right, my current PC is a $250 investment away from exceeding next-gen console performance specs if even I wanted to take that easy way out and save $100-200 by not buying the console, as opposed to building a real power-tower from the ground up.

Interesting. My desire to build a PC instead of getting a console is, for all intents and purposes, officially confirmed with this revelation, assuming it's accurate. I'm pretty much set on taking what little next-gen seed money I curently have and put it toward a new tower instead. This pretty much seals it.
 
mevans336

mevans336

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TS-56336 said:
Hmm. Aside from the processors as I'm not really able to figure out what comparable PC specs are to that, my off-the-shelf PC right now meets or exceeds those specs in every respect except for GPU. I'm no expert on pricing, I'm sure I could fish up decent deals but if I'm looking at this right, my current PC is a $250 investment away from exceeding next-gen console performance specs if even I wanted to take that easy way out and save $100-200 by not buying the console, as opposed to building a real power-tower from the ground up.

Interesting. My desire to build a PC instead of getting a console is, for all intents and purposes, officially confirmed with this revelation, assuming it's accurate. I'm pretty much set on taking what little next-gen seed money I curently have and put it toward a new tower instead. This pretty much seals it.
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This is a false analogy. A console is built for a single purpose, targeting a single framerate, at perhaps 3 resolutions - 4 if we include the forthcoming 4k "UltraHD" resolution. And do it all in a virtually silent chassis that will fit in your entertainment center.

Even the processor mentioned is unique, as AMD doesn't offer any CPUs with 32MB of on-die ESRAM cache. (See here: http://cloudfront2.bostinno.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Xbox720.jpg) Even though the clock-speed is low, this CPU will perform very, very well due to the on-die ESRAM cache.
 
amstech

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The arguments about the 360 and PS3 are comical, especially when xbox kiddies start spitting sales numbers. The first 360 was a disaster, I personally know of 20 people, no exaggeration, who experienced RROD. If you truthfully discard people that bought another 360 or a new 360S because of issues the PS3 has sold more units in the USA, and easily worldwide.
As far as the paranoia with the Kinect I might be taking it to seriously, I just hate it when a company forces or tries to force something even if it is vital to the 720's gaming experience.
 
JustinMcNairy

JustinMcNairy

I don't know why people complained about Xbox 360 controller not support for the next generation Xbox. Duh, I care less about the incompatibility. Original Xbox controller not support for Xbox 360 so what!!???? If I don't want Kinect to watch me everytime I play (Sometime I play naked lol) I can just simply turn the kinect around....oh wait an error message popup telling me kinect can't see individual player or players, so...
 
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No love for old controllers? I hope they won't get any love when they are old!
 
St1ckM4n

St1ckM4n

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Regarding the Kinect 'spying' capability.

Everyone who has commented on this has missed the point by a wide mile.

It's not about looking at a video feed of you. No one gives a damn about that - porn is everywhere in the web. It's about the data. Android phones, Chrome, Firefox, a TON of software you install today on your Windows machine prompts you by default to enable 'anonymous usage statistics' to send back to the company.THIS is what will be a problem with the new Xbox.

I'm sure if you look at the ToS of the current Kinect games, it'll say that some data may be sent back to the company. If you're not really following me here and you don't know what kind of 'data' might be useful since they won't be spying at your naked butt, here we go:

- Kinect recognises limbs and joints (pivots) by default in 'gaming mode'. It's actually in the news article.
- MS can gather a ton of info about this.
- The dimensions of users will be able to measure global and country-specific human sizing averages. This is useful to car manufacturers, furniture, clothing, etc.
- Measuring the range of movement of human targets. Gather this data and compare it over a 5 year period.
- Kinect is capable of detecting objects as well as humans. E.g. skateboards can be scanned into a game and used as a controller. Expand this, and MS can actually determine what is in your living from.
- From the above, they can use additional photo evidence to find out roughly how much $$ is in your living room. Extrapolate to find the household 'wealthyness' value.
- Using the wealthyness factor, MS store will display cheaper or more expensive games.

Shall I go on?
 
soldier1969

soldier1969

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So basically its last years PC parts thrown together to make a console. My current gen gaming PC already owns this.
 
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