Nokia pushes DSL speeds to 825Mbps

By Emil · 63 replies
Oct 25, 2010
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  1. vangrat

    vangrat TS Rookie Posts: 223

    The article you are talking about can be found here:

    They state that the researcher could make the internet "100 times faster." My guess is that this would be only over a very short distance...possibly the research we are looking at here is taken directly from this Aussie bloke?
  2. fritz123

    fritz123 TS Rookie Posts: 56

    pushing this technology to this level is good and all, but in my opinion, it's gonna be hard do to sustain. i mean, 400meters is kind of small for commercial usage and it will need a lot of these virtual channels. i wonder if doing that will be expensive. if so, it will kinda be defeating the purpose of pursuing further development of this technology. i think we should move to the next best thing which is fiber optics. well, that's just me. haha
  3. Serag

    Serag TS Booster Posts: 181

    400 meters is a waste since the speed will drop the more far the distance is.
    But maybe they'll make it better in development, we really need that over here :D
  4. omega00

    omega00 TS Enthusiast Posts: 38

    Yes, this is very impressive but we as a nation are way behind other countries in terms of pure speed. I wish the old douches in Washington realize that they need to wake up from the Reagan era and move forward to an era where technology and science will drive this nation. Instead, they are stuck playing pass the crap to the next generations while getting their fill of social security and medicare. I wish they would wake up and spend money on something worthwhile such as improving broadband accessibility.
  5. zogo

    zogo TS Rookie Posts: 53

    I agree, they should focus on fiber optics technology much more instead of developing more effective DSL based on copper wiring. Go into the future not into the past :)
  6. grvalderrama

    grvalderrama TS Enthusiast Posts: 194

    Do you want to know the speed of my Internet connection? You'll be laughing at me... cause it is a damn good joke ¬¬
  7. Johny47

    Johny47 TS Rookie Posts: 157

    The 'improvement on the distance isn't that big but if they can keep doing it then cool, and what does DSL mean anyways?

    I had DSL broadband once(Wanadoo, very reliable I thought =/) back when I used to share the internet 2 ways through two USB modems, I only got about 1.1mbps but the very embaressing thing is... right now I only get about 0.4mbps with regular ethernet broadband(Sky s***band).
  8. samironsy

    samironsy TS Rookie

    very nice but i think that the price coud be a problem
  9. Ahmed90

    Ahmed90 TS Enthusiast Posts: 99   +10

    500 meter is too short in most cities

    500 meter to the phone/dsl company is way too short

  10. NeoFlux

    NeoFlux TS Booster Posts: 104   +14

    825Mbps is VERY much .... even on fiber most ISP's do not have data plans even near that fast. Lets just hope implementation of this technology on IPS's end do not require much investment. I could use speed boost on my DSL, since fiber is not an option for me :(
  11. princeton

    princeton TS Addict Posts: 1,676

    The government should take the money they're supposedly putting back into the country from lottery sales into putting down fiberoptic cables to majors cities.
  12. milford50

    milford50 TS Rookie

    Most providers would just love to pull on DSL, hope this can work in real world situations...
  13. JMMD

    JMMD TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 854

    I'm all for faster speeds but I'd really like to see some progress towards making it cheaper. Our cable provider offers two plans. One at 1.5mb and the other at 12mb. Nothing in between. I'd be happy with say 5mb at a price point in between the two.
  14. Brodieeee

    Brodieeee TS Rookie Posts: 17

    No doubt even with this new technology we still won't get what we pay for :(
  15. RebelFlag

    RebelFlag TS Addict Posts: 147   +78

    I am happy about anything that looks at increasing the speeds across DSL lines, as that is considered legacy technology. Even though the 825Mb is only for 400 meters, at normal distances from the phone box, that is still going to be faster than the 25Mb currently offered as max speed by my provider.

    People need to be more positive about technology moving forward. It might not be perfect but it is a step in the right direction. Don't forget it was only a little over 100 years ago that cars were slower than horses, until the technology got further development.
  16. rizalp

    rizalp TS Rookie Posts: 39

    Well, maybe we couldn't have 800Mbps form DSL, but it's sure a viable solution to people who live in the last mile. As we know, the standard copper wires network, is broader than fiber or cable.
  17. TorturedChaos

    TorturedChaos TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 839   +29

    CenturyLink is doing bonded pairs where I living, giving 26mpbs connections and up, which is pretty good for the area I live in. But there is no way in hell I'm going to go back to dealing with CenturyLink/CenturyTel - those guys are jerks.

    As for this new "phantom" bonded pairs it sounds like a great idea, but has many others have said it needs a bit better range. But its good to see improved ways to use the copper. Just wish the US would put down fiber faster -_-
  18. jason4832

    jason4832 TS Rookie

    The Point is how affordable can these speeds be?
  19. TuesdayExpress

    TuesdayExpress TS Rookie Posts: 22

    I would love to see this rolled out in the near-to-medium future. Here in Baltimore we're limited in choice to Comcast and Verizon DSL, which is no real contest in terms of speed offered. Absent fiber rollout, this would provide a needed shot in the arm to local HSI competition.
  20. jjbeard926

    jjbeard926 TS Rookie Posts: 69

    Cable internet runs over your coaxial cable, the same as TV signals. It doesn't use traditional copper wires, instead coax is 1 copper wire that is thicker and has much more shielding on it than traditional copper wiring. The coax cable runs both the TV signal and the data down this 1 very thick wire and splits it out based on the frequency the signal is using. So you can transmit a TV signal at x mhz and a data signal at y mhz at the same time and it parses the data out of the TV signal. This allows for very high speeds because the signals do not require one signal to stop before accepting the next one, in other words it doesn't have to worry about collision domain management. Once you get the signal to the modem though all the network is done using normal Ethernet and IEEE 802.x architecture.

    But, the main strength of cable internet has been their ability to best the speeds of DSL but factors of 5 to 10 in most areas. If 100+MB/s DSL becomes readily abailable it could spell doom for cable internet. Most people I know don't like the cable companies and would rather not use them and they do tend to be pricier. But for example in my area DSL is still limited to 1.5MB/s and the highest speed available over DSL within 20 miles of me is only 5MB/s (though advertised as 7 the average is actually lower than 5, but I'm being generous).
  21. frodough

    frodough TS Rookie Posts: 90

    great news! always hoping something will bring some real competition to cable so timewarner / comcast wont have their regional monopoly, at least less comfortable.
  22. Jibberish18

    Jibberish18 TS Evangelist Posts: 646   +89

    I don't think that people aren't excited about it. I just think that people such as ourselves, like to know more about technologies as they're presented. We're all technically inclined here to some degree, otherwise we wouldn't be commenting here. And you know, that most companies will only reveal the pros to something but never the cons. So your job is to always be skeptical of something until it is implemented and full proof. Otherwise, companies would be rich from your paycheck and you'd just be a sucker.
  23. nismo91

    nismo91 TS Evangelist Posts: 930   +31

    kudos to Jibberish18!
  24. Lokalaskurar

    Lokalaskurar TS Enthusiast Posts: 544

    Even though copper will be tough competitor to beat; the speed of light (in a vacuum) beats all still. Fiber will evolve, and eventually (probably) take over compleately.
  25. jjbeard926

    jjbeard926 TS Rookie Posts: 69

    I think in general people are positive about it. But we've all seen vaporware and we've all seen technology promise things it couldn't deliver. Speaking of which, where's my jetpack???

    Anyway, it's a healthy dose of realism you're seeing here. It will most likely be years before this is practical for use, but if it can be practical for real world use and get a good roll out this would mean some real competition in the internet service industry. And competition is good for the consumer.

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