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[OcelotRex]

You are changing the goal posts. The 1080 Ti ($699 at release) is directly compared to the 2080 Ti because it's a consumer card. You're being disingenuous as best.

I read the extremetech article when it released (like techspot I go there daily). They are welcome to their comparison but here's where it fails:

Price equality (or as best as can be practically achieved) is one of the most important ways to help end-users decide whether a component represents a good deal. The GTX 1080, currently available for as little as $450, is between 56 percent and 64 percent the price of a new RTX 2080 (depending on if you go Founders Edition). Of course the RTX 2080 is faster. The relevant question is, does that increased performance represent a better deal?

Comparing a 2 year old card's street pricing to the MSRP of a newly released title is the definition of disingenuous. Since you're accusing me of moving the goal posts as well I'd kindly like to point out that we were never discussing value or the best deal. My position is that purchasing new hardware at MSRP launch prices is never a good deal/value; I think you'll find the same advice here on this site. The discussion we were having dealt with whether Nvidia was price gouging, not whether these FE cards were good deals.

For the past 3 generations the XX80 (780, 980, and 1080) were the launch of the series and the most powerful cards. Later Titan would be released at $1,000+ price points and nearly a year post-launch the XX80 Ti's would be released at a more affordable price. This launch is different with the 2080 Ti being launched simultaneously with the 2080. Asking Titan prices makes business sense considering people aren't having to wait 6-10 Months for the Ti to launch. Comparing the 1080 Ti to the 2080 Ti without considering 5 years and 4 generations of history either shows a clear bias or an unwillingness to accept facts.

Read the article I linked to and learn a few things the rest of us already know.

Please refer to above and if you'd like to begin to support your claims of "gouging" with cogent statements instead of opinion pieces and hyperbole I will be glad to consider them.

 

[fps4ever]

I read the extremetech article when it released (like techspot I go there daily). They are welcome to their comparison but here's where it fails:


Comparing a 2 year old card's street pricing to the MSRP of a newly released title is the definition of disingenuous. Since you're accusing me of moving the goal posts as well I'd kindly like to point out that we were never discussing value or the best deal. My position is that purchasing new hardware at MSRP launch prices is never a good deal/value; I think you'll find the same advice here on this site. The discussion we were having dealt with whether Nvidia was price gouging, not whether these FE cards were good deals.

For the past 3 generations the XX80 (780, 980, and 1080) were the launch of the series and the most powerful cards. Later Titan would be released at $1,000+ price points and nearly a year post-launch the XX80 Ti's would be released at a more affordable price. This launch is different with the 2080 Ti being launched simultaneously with the 2080. Asking Titan prices makes business sense considering people aren't having to wait 6-10 Months for the Ti to launch. Comparing the 1080 Ti to the 2080 Ti without considering 5 years and 4 generations of history either shows a clear bias or an unwillingness to accept facts.

Please refer to above and if you'd like to begin to support your claims of "gouging" with cogent statements instead of opinion pieces and hyperbole I will be glad to consider them.

I compared release day prices for each. It's the next consumer upgrade node in the series so your time period is irrelevant. Lets keep the workstation Titan's out of it unless you want to change goal posts and target audience. I provided historical pricing and we have yet to see actual solid review numbers for the 2080, but you have the gall to call me out for my opinion and hyperbole? And I should take your word over a professional tech website's opinion. Um no. By your logic prices should be going up exponentially with each flagship release. Within 10 years I'd imagine nobody could afford a NV card. That's not how this works.

I see price gouging and so do the majority of other knowledgeable people. Sorry if the truth messes up your so called facts. Something definitely smells fishy with you defending the new outrageous prices so vigorously...hmmmm interesting.

 

[Someone8MyPosts]

Nope....never paying more than $250 for a graphics card...ever. No system I've ever built has gone above $1200 and mine last 6-8 years before I feel the need to upgrade.

 

[Orange Swan]

$1,630. to $1,750. without tax at my local retailer (preorder).
Must be cause we use the Canadian peso, uhm, dollar.
I will have to pass

Could you not buy in the US and bring them across the border (forgive any mistakes as I live in the UK) if you live close enough to do so?

 

[ImmenseBrick]

Its true I could, however by the time you do the exchange rate and then pay import tax and so forth it lands up being similar to just buying it here. It is frustrating as not THAT long ago I could buy pc gear in canada for the same as usa as our dollar was at parity, then it imploded and now everything is 30% more expensive on average yet incomes are not significantly more. All to say tech just keeps getting more expensive and nvidia is really trying to milk this one. I think ill sit this round out and see if AMD has anything up its sleeve. I sold my 1080/7700k rig in the height of crypto so im PC less for now. Guess its work laptop until zen 2 and maybe some kind of amd card. Need competition in this space.