Kibaruk said:
The one saying "I have a 4xxx and looks like postcard showoff, against the 285 that flies through games" according to the benchmarks at 8x MSAA resolution they run with like 5 fps difference, not 40 that is what it requires to look like postcard game.
First off I have 2 GTX280's (not GTX285)
Secondly...
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2009/11/24/multi-gpu-round-up/7
As all the hoo-hah seems to be regarding the top-end cards then pay attention to benchmarks at 1920 and 2560.
If I run card "A" in game for 5 minutes, and during that time it runs at a MINIMUM framerate of 15 fps for 30 seconds and the rest of the time runs at 200 fps then the AVERAGE framerate is 181.5 fps.
If card "B" runs the at 60 fps for the entire 5 mins then it's average framerate is 60 fps.
By your logic card "A" gives you the better gameplay experience because the average would be three times higher.
I run two systems that are broadly comparable in performance, one nvidia and one ATI and while some games run better on one card/s or the other I have found that the GTX's work with a new game out of the box generally- not so much with ATI's offerings (Saboteur and Resident Evil 5 for example) and the minimum framerate is the telling factor for good gameplay.
Secondly...
Neither of my systems are primarily used for gaming. The bulk of their usage comes from video transcoding and graphics design. The new nVIDIA architecture (if and when it arrives) holds a great deal of promise as opposed to the HD3xxx > HD4xxx > HD5xxx incremental tweaking of an architecture that is heading towards a dead end.
ATI selling cards, GREAT, channel some of the funds into R&D ! because selling the next best thing based on the fact that it can push out 120 fps instead of a measly 100 fps seems shortsighted at best.
As for when the green teams offering is supposed to rear its head I thought it had been established that the timeframe was Q1 2010.
As for nVidia losing out to AMD...If the HD5870/5970 and GF100 were released at the same time they would be sharing revenue. As it stands AMD get nearly 100% of the enthusiast market for a few months, interest wanes after initial gpu-fever, nVidia launch GF100 with only AMD refreshes and AIB "special edition"/OC as competition and makes it's money in Q1 2010 instead of Q4 2009- assuming GF100 outperforms the HD5870!. This scenario is just a continuation of the HD3xxx > G80/92 > HD4xxx > GTX200 theme. When was the last time AMD/ATI and nVIDIA went head-to-head by releasing a whole new product line each at the same time?
