Nvidia makes it virtually impossible to give, trade or sell bundled game codes

fimbles

TS Evangelist
Could you not just activate in a VM? I guess it wont be checking the GPU at every launch, Unless the games will be useless on future upgrades.
 

amstech

IT Overlord
I have seen both companies do this to sell GPU's and I have a few thoughts on it.

1) IMO its foolish to buy a GPU just because a game or two is bundled with it.
2) I would never care if said company locked down the codes, it's not in their interest to help hand a $60 application to your brother, mother and dog 2 years later because the original buyer got it for free.
3) Most of the time the bundled product requires a certain service or account you don't already have to access and play the game.
4) Screw a game code, give me a $50 steam coupon code with my $400 GPU, not some $60 game that will cost $20 in 6 months.
 

misor

TS Evangelist
Lol. this sort of happened to me. I instructed my sister, a citizen of the U.S.A. to buy from newegg a discounted Samsung ssd evo (with free game code) for me, a citizen of the Philippines. I proceeded to redeem the game via ubisoft but was told by a customer support staff that I cannot redeem it since the game giveaway with Samsung ssd is only for residents of U.S.A.

I think when companies do game giveaway coupons, then they should no longer have control with how the buyers deal with the coupons (trade, sell, redeem).
 

hwertz

TS Rookie
Well, as a long-time Linux user, here's hoping they just drop the game bundle and drop the price of the cards a bit instead... anyway...
I can see their reasoning -- the vendor and software company tend to come to some bundling agreement that assumes a fairly small fraction of the bundled software is actually activated.
On the other hand... a) That is really not my problem as the customer. b) A coupon-code that can only be redeemed for a game with the hardware you just bought, is NOT a free game, and I'd consider it false advertising to say that it is.
 

Chesterfried

TS Enthusiast
It's not a lost sale as Nvidia is paying them upfront for the codes, so there's no way the dev can loose.
But it is, if I hadn't of been able to purchase the bundled code, I would have got it somewhere else and the developer would have sold two copies of the game instead of just the one to Nvidia. I'm also guessing that Nvidia probably gets the codes at a reduced cost since it's good advertising for a game to be marketed alongside the latest and greatest graphics technology.
 

KiwiCant

TS Rookie
Ridiculous. My at-home machine uses an AMD graphics card, but my work machine uses Nvidia. I stopped installing the "Experience" application when I noticed you are required to make an account and sign in.
Same... I already have enough passwords to remember thanks Nvidia, di*kheads!
 
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Evernessince

TS Evangelist
But it is, if I hadn't of been able to purchase the bundled code, I would have got it somewhere else and the developer would have sold two copies of the game instead of just the one to Nvidia. I'm also guessing that Nvidia probably gets the codes at a reduced cost since it's good advertising for a game to be marketed alongside the latest and greatest graphics technology.
Supposition at best. First you assume that everyone NEEDS that game, which that don't. If a game isn't reasonably priced, I know many people are like me in they simply won't buy. If you are looking for game codes to save money then you would have likely bought the game from somewhere like G2A anyways, which likely nets game devs around the same amount as Nvidia pays.

Second, less people buying less cards with the codes means less demand which leads to Nvidia buying less codes or canceling the promotion all together. It is not a guaranteed two sales. For all we know, Nvidia's contract could payout based on how many codes they gave out.

Lol. this sort of happened to me. I instructed my sister, a citizen of the U.S.A. to buy from newegg a discounted Samsung ssd evo (with free game code) for me, a citizen of the Philippines. I proceeded to redeem the game via ubisoft but was told by a customer support staff that I cannot redeem it since the game giveaway with Samsung ssd is only for residents of U.S.A.

I think when companies do game giveaway coupons, then they should no longer have control with how the buyers deal with the coupons (trade, sell, redeem).
Wow, that was a **** move by them. Yeah, you got to learn to take anything for "free" from companies with a huge grain of salt of a billion strings attached.
 

Jaxonb

TS Rookie
What a bad decision. I just uninstalled GeForce Experience and it will stay uninstalled.

In actual life, when you give someone a gift, no matter the reason, it then belongs to them. You no longer own it, so can't tell the person you gave it to what they can do with it. I would never deal with a human who would do this, so why should I deal with a company that would do it? I own a GTX 970 and three games came along with it. As soon as the new AMD cards are out I will be leaving nVidia and will sell this card. Like to see them try to stop me from doing that. If AMD tries the same crap, I just won't accept the gift as an enticement and will find another way to purchase with no strings attached.
 

cliffordcooley

TS Redneck
As soon as the new AMD cards are out I will be leaving nVidia and will sell this card. Like to see them try to stop me from doing that.
There must be more to it than that. Nobody in there right mind would leave nVidia on this reason alone.
If AMD tries the same crap, I just won't accept the gift as an enticement and will find another way to purchase with no strings attached.
Which is the way everyone will be treating this nVidia code. You could do the same.
 

Jaxonb

TS Rookie
There must be more to it than that. Nobody in there right mind would leave nVidia on this reason alone.
Which is the way everyone will be treating this nVidia code. You could do the same.
Well, what more does there have to be than for a company to go back on its word? What will it take to make you leave? If it requires being outside my right mind to leave a company because they are acting dishonorably, then maybe I am. It's not like I'm buying into a new card for the games. I've already done it. And when I did, I wasn't told that I couldn't give them away if I want to. They didn't say they're giving me free games but I don't really own them. The 970 is a good card, but I was just looking at upgrading to the 1070. After this, I'm just going to wait for the new AMD. Think of it as voting with my feet. But maybe there is a little more to it. I think competition is healthy, and I'm willing to act on that.
 

captaincranky

TechSpot Addict
Well, what more does there have to be than for a company to go back on its word? What will it take to make you leave? If it requires being outside my right mind to leave a company because they are acting dishonorably, then maybe I am. It's not like I'm buying into a new card for the games. I've already done it. And when I did, I wasn't told that I couldn't give them away if I want to. They didn't say they're giving me free games but I don't really own them.
Well first, you should get over yourself. Technically, you don't own ANY piece of software you have. For example M$ owns your copy(s) of Windows, and they're tracking you all over the planet with it (or those).

The 970 is a good card, but I was just looking at upgrading to the 1070.
Well, that's what it's like when you have to be, "the first kid on the block", to own something. I'd prefer to buy the 1070, after the "1170" comes out. That's when you'd get the best price, which makes the game a non-issue.
After this, I'm just going to wait for the new AMD. Think of it as voting with my feet. But maybe there is a little more to it. I think competition is healthy, and I'm willing to act on that.
So tell me, if AMD suddenly decides that you're not allowed to sell software you never owned in the first place, and don't own still, where would you go for your next video card? (I'm thinkin' there's nowhere else to go). So, do you come whimpering back to Nvidia with your tail between your legs, and that righteous indignation beat out of you, spouting the same nonsense you're spouting about Nvidia now, about AMD?

You sound like an AMD fanbois, just waiting for an excuse to run back to them. You simply can't justify it, because Nvidia cards perform much better in every aspect (*)..

(*) (At most price points).
 
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Kidstone

TS Rookie
Nvidia is running the risk of ticking off a lot of gamers with a controversial requirement whose motive isn’t entirely clear.

It's pretty obvious they want to funnel people into using GeForce Experience.
They shouldn't lock the game to the hardware purchased unless they offer a choice of games so you can pick one you don't already own or one you would prefer to play. Otherwise the free code is worthless to the purchaser.