Over 23,000 people targeted for downloading 'The Expendables'

milwaukeemike said:
Panic, no, we aren't arguing about HOW, we're arguing about IF they should be prosecuted. Look above me to what vela added... Like this is some right we should have because the technology exists to copy and movie studios have enough money to give you some.

You're right, we should teach our kids that if someone wants to play with their toys, they should tell their friends to buy it themselves because the toy companies will lose a profit if he shares it as opposed to the friend buying it himself.

Panic, if you received a letter in the mail saying 'please pay $3000 or you'll be prosecuted for say... drug dealing (something you KNOW you're not guilty of)' the first thing you'd think is it's a scam. If i was contacted about piracy coming from my IP, i'd do what any normal innocent person would do and offer to completely help catch whoever it is, cooperate completely, and let them know I'm innocent, but I'd be happy to help in anyway i can.

If anyone actually paid a settlement fee that's because they were guilty. No sane person sends out $3,000 when they're innocent.

Drug dealing is a rather serious crime, unlike pirating movies which creates no profit. Any normal innocent person would tell them to **** off and go do something more productive. Like catching said drug dealer.

Think about why they're so serious about this... technology is improving almost by the day, and it's not long before we're able to sneak in a tiny camera to a movie theater, and record 1080 with great sound. For all i know you can already.

And then what? We have to go through a security check before going in? Or worst case, we have fewer movies made because they know to take 20% off the top in lost piracy revenue.

Look at the NFL lockout as an example... owners are freaking out (unreasonably imo) about about protecting their revenue because attendence was down last year, and will be down this year. A lot of that is because of HDTV. Technology is replacing the standard model, and you risk losing the product altogether if you can't adapt or protect it.

You're never going to lose the product unless something better comes out.

You type like a 15 year old and you think like one as well.
 
Panic, no, we aren't arguing about HOW, we're arguing about IF they should be prosecuted. Look above me to what vela added... Like this is some right we should have because the technology exists to copy and movie studios have enough money to give you some.
http://arstechnica.com/old/content/2006/04/6662.ars

Panic, if you received a letter in the mail saying 'please pay $3000 or you'll be prosecuted for say... drug dealing (something you KNOW you're not guilty of)' the first thing you'd think is it's a scam.
Now you're running on all cylinders! You dont suppose people would be upset or backlash against companies that scam thousands of people do you?
If i was contacted about piracy coming from my IP, i'd do what any normal innocent person would do and offer to completely help catch whoever it is, cooperate completely, and let them know I'm innocent, but I'd be happy to help in anyway i can.
And I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords.
Are you seriously at the beck and call of anyone that wants to accuse you of a crime?
 
PanicX said:

And I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords.
Are you seriously at the beck and call of anyone that wants to accuse you of a crime?

I wish I could be there to see his face the moment he realized he was actually a huge hypocrite all along.

I'd take pictures.
 
If you are in a drive-in movie theater, watching a movie and you see someone outside of the drive-in property watching the movie, are they breaking the law...? Is the owner of the drive-in breaking the law...?

Copyright law suggest's that you can not make copies, or charge for viewing unless you are the owner, or have made an arangement with the owner, and/or pay royalties.

So if you download a movie, or stream a movie are you breaking the law...?

Seems to me the entity, or person hosting the movie, and providing it to anyone who cares to get it, would be in more danger than those who choose to view or download it.
 
This bullsh*t. Most ISPs can not reliably identify an ip address to the subscriber, period.

IP address is mapped to a MAC address of your firewall so if you change your firewall, you get a new IP address.

To the poster about not having to worry if FED is knocking on your door if you didnt do the stealing. It is very possible that you are taking the fall for a crime you didnt commit. after all, do you trust your ISP keeping accurate records to correctly identify the ip address. Not me!
 
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