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Package/Die dimensions for Ryzen 1700?

By Mugsy ยท 9 replies
Nov 27, 2017
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  1. After searching for a half hour online and finding nothing, can someone tell me the CPU surface dimensions of a Ryzen 1700 cpu?

    I'm trying to figure out if I can reuse my old liquid cooler with it. I'm using an old Corsair Seidon 120M liquid cooler on a 4770k (which it was never intended for but works fine.) My 4770k cpu has a surface area of 37.5mm x 37.5mm (according to Intel) with a TDP of 84watts. I added a second fan to the radiator in push/pull configuration to meet the demands of my overclocked i7. I run around 38'C with typical (near-idle) use with this cooler.

    The Ryzen 1700 has a TDP of only 65watts, so it should run cool enough that the old Seidon-120M should be plenty to cool it. But it won't work if the cpu package/heat-spreader is too big (or too small) for the Seidon's waterblock.

    Any information is appreciated.
     
  2. MaikuTech

    MaikuTech TS Booster Posts: 293   +40

    Read the spec tabs for me and see what it says about socket compatibility.
    https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103181
    If newegg or the manufacturer didn't update it to say it works with socket am4.
    Do not try to do so without something going wrong or damaging your ryzen cpu.
    Possible problems a liquid leak or the thing slides off by mistake the cooler will have a problem cooling your cpu.
     
  3. Mugsy

    Mugsy TS Guru Topic Starter Posts: 410   +23

    Thanks for the reply.

    My question is more regarding whether an old cooler for a 4K series Intel cpu that used more power would be sufficient to cool a newer cpu that uses less power (and presumably generate less heat)? It seems a waste to trash a perfectly good cooler (no leaks) with enough cooling ability to handle newer lower-TDP cpu's.

    If the chip surface area is small enough to be covered by the waterblock, all that's needed is a good bracket/mount.
     
  4. MaikuTech

    MaikuTech TS Booster Posts: 293   +40

    Yes it says so right on neweggs page that it will fit on there:

    Block Compatibility - Intel Intel LGA 2011 / 1366 / 1156 / 1155 / 1150 / 775
    https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103181
    Cooling wise it should be able to keep your 4770k chilled out but the grease corsair supplies isn't worth it.
    I suggest tuniq for your 4770k if you over clock it will need a really good grease to keep it under control.
    https://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod...2&cm_re=thermal_grease-_-35-154-012-_-Product
    https://ark.intel.com/products/75123/Intel-Core-i7-4770K-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-3_90-GHz
    Normally I suggest artic mx-4 but the more these newer end chips clock higer they put out much more heat then older generation cpus.
     
  5. Mugsy

    Mugsy TS Guru Topic Starter Posts: 410   +23

    I ALREADY have a 4770k (check the original question). I want to know if it'll fit a Ryren 7.

    Thx.
     
  6. MaikuTech

    MaikuTech TS Booster Posts: 293   +40

    I answered that one time already I also told you to look at spec tab on newegg.com.
    It is not (AM4-socket) compatible, corsair does not mention it on there.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_AM4
    The answer is no, if you are still that concerned, I recommend you call corsair tomorrow.
    Get a direct answer from the technicians there and see what they think.
    https://gethuman.com/phone-number/Corsair
     
  7. Mugsy

    Mugsy TS Guru Topic Starter Posts: 410   +23

    I am well aware my cooler (bought more than 3 years ago) predates the AM4 socket, so the fact AM4 is not listed on a 4 year old product spec tells me nothing. If it did, I wouldn't be asking. Fact is, despite supporting the 1150 socket, the 120M says it doesn't support the 4K series cpu's either, yet here it is. ;)

    "The answer is no". The QUESTION was "how big is the Ryzen 7?" That's not an answer.

    Corsair does not provide assistance on discontinued products, and would never advise me to try to use an old cooler when they can sell me a new one. Thanks anyway. :(
     
  8. MaikuTech

    MaikuTech TS Booster Posts: 293   +40

    Just buy a new cooler or stick with the stock heatsink fan until you are ready to make up your mind and move on.
     
  9. Capaill

    Capaill TS Evangelist Posts: 441   +177

    The AM4 socket is square and 40mm x 40mm.
     
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  10. Mugsy

    Mugsy TS Guru Topic Starter Posts: 410   +23

    Perfect. Just the info I needed.

    I wonder if a round cooling block for a 37.5mm2 i7 would be big enough?
     

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