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Police raid targets 9-year-old pirate, Winnie the Pooh laptop seized

By Jos ยท 64 replies
Nov 22, 2012
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  1. Pan Wah

    Pan Wah TS Enthusiast Posts: 125   +27

    I wonder what the authorities should do in this case? If they ignore child cases, adults could just hide behind them and get away with anything. It's a lot easier to mock than to provide practical solutions (next week they're coming back for her Beatrix Potter books! - see, I told you it is).:confused:

  2. Same thing happened to me 5 years ago with exception to the demand for money and mafia breaking down the door. Letter just warned not to keep doing it otherwise the authorities would be notified. Within hours after receiving the letter I had obtained some programs and went on downloading like it was nothing. Today that letter is currently framed next to my vast collection of ever-growing quality bootlegs.

    The public must feel really safe at night knowing the police are busting 9-year-olds for downloading horrible music. I know I do.
  3. What worries me more is the use of non-disclosure agreements. Justice (or even injustice) has to be transparent. If they're making people keep quiet about it then that stinks.
  4. Sunny87

    Sunny87 TS Enthusiast Posts: 115   +11

  5. Zoltan Head

    Zoltan Head TS Booster Posts: 247   +27

    Did you manage to get a replacement Winnie-the-Pooh laptop? ;)
  6. kamz999

    kamz999 TS Rookie Posts: 22

    Anonymous anyone?
  7. The most disturbing thing to me about this is that the advice of the police (which presumably was neither requested or warranted) was to just have paid the fine. Yes, let's all just roll over to **AA demands without bothering with due process regardless of how (un)justifiable they are or if the individual presented with the fine is even guilty of the accusation.
  8. "Electronic Frontier Finland also took note of the case and said it is an indication of just how far copyright enforcement has progressed in Finland."

    I'd say "digressed" would be more fitting.
  9. A.Bundy

    A.Bundy TS Rookie

    you are absolutely correct. since the police were involved, this can be distinguished as a human rights issue. CIAPC overstepped their boundaries when attacking children by manipulating and using state authorities for means of profiteering, and I think that they should be tried for crimes against humanity. if Finland thinks otherwise, then I suggest that they be removed from the EU immediately. stupidity like this should not be tolerated. When you attack a child for downloading some junk music, then you have to answer to public scrutiny, and I hope someone other than this family pays very dearly.
  10. 9Nails

    9Nails TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,212   +174

    Thank goodness we have CIAPC to protect us from 9 year old girls! This world would be such a dangerous place without their help.

    Chisu, I have no idea who you are, but I give respect to you for apologizing. I believe that CIAPC acted wrongly in this case. And trust that you didn't personally want this young fan's house raided.

    In cases like this, the parents are responsible for the child's actions. (Even if they were adult children living at home with the parent.) The industry can sue the parents for any amount the courts permit.
  11. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 9,162   +3,260

    And in this case the parent was held responsible. Only the tool that was found to be used in pirating was seized, this is probably standard procedure regardless of age. Other than property being seized, the father was looking at prosecution because the girl was under age.
  12. misor

    misor TS Evangelist Posts: 1,230   +229

    Piracy is a crime...and so is extortion.
  13. treetops

    treetops TS Evangelist Posts: 2,027   +197

    Whats funny is that we pay the police to protect us and if you ask random strangers on the street, id guess 90%+ would say this is not what they want the police to protect us from.
  14. Did you even read the article? The girl is not under arrest, only her PC was taken as it is considered evidence in the copyright infringement case. The only emotional issue she could have about this is that she might miss her Winnie The Pooh laptop.

    *Search engine pointing to pirate bay is insane. Read the article. The father also never said the girl knows more about computers. "You are not impossible. You are improbable." (c) Sheldon Cooper

    The lesson of the story is that record labels suck @ public relations.
  15. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 12,501   +2,295

    So basically what you're saying is, "finally, after years of painstaking lobbying and legislation, two wrongs do make a right"!

    Oh dear....!
  16. Oh dear. For a minute there I thought only the republicans across the pond had lost it. Can't get their economies to stop acting funny so go after the ones that can't fight back? Which leader here green lighted the entire operation?
  17. misor

    misor TS Evangelist Posts: 1,230   +229

    not really, the girl did commit a crime. (failed crime? failed download? so the crime is not consummated?)
    the father, being the legal guardian of the under age girl, must be charged for the piracy or be made accountable for the crime.
    but he must not pay the exorbitant price of 600 euros.
  18. misor

    misor TS Evangelist Posts: 1,230   +229

    no, he got a jack sparrow themed windows vista. :)
    Zoltan Head likes this.
  19. inabster

    inabster TS Rookie

    I hope you are being sarcastic, otherwise you are a sad case...

    to suggest that parents will use their children as human shields is sick, dude!
  20. inabster

    inabster TS Rookie

    Hmmm... and you are hiding behind Guest...
    not courageous enough to show your identity... whilst shooting from the hip...

  21. @Guest Christ. Seems like on top of attempting to win "the most grammatical mistakes in a response" award you also did not read the article. Buying a laptop and/or spoofing your mac and ip address for a song? Not to mention this is a 9 year old? Get real.

    Oh and sorry to burst your bubble but not everyone knows about torrents, despite you and your l33t haxxorz friends knowing about them.
  22. inabster

    inabster TS Rookie

    Let's see...
    hmmm... maybe Russia as a humanitarian gesture could turn the gas and oil taps off Finland...
    wait Finland has oil, LOL!!

    Oops Norway...
    yeah Norway should turn the taps off... no fuel for police vehicles... LOL!
  23. Pan Wah

    Pan Wah TS Enthusiast Posts: 125   +27

    No, I'm suggesting that people who are criminals will use their unique combination of cunning & immorality to evade the law. If you reread above, you might see that I am one a the very few posters that gives a damn about the crime committed, rather than banging on about the alleged over-reaction.
  24. Zoltan Head

    Zoltan Head TS Booster Posts: 247   +27

    The lucky, lucky b***ard! (y)
  25. An anonymous group gifted her with a used macbook pro and the group dont want to be in public because of their "social position"

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