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Linux is the last bastion of free computing. Microsoft can go to hell
Linux is the last bastion of free computing. Microsoft can go to hell
Report claims almost half of systems are ineligible for Windows 11 upgrades
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captaincranky
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Believe it or not, if you can settle for Photoshop Elements, Adobe has it on their site as a download for Linux. The rest of the like, to the best of my knowledge, is strictly Windows and Mac.
Of course, we have yet to find out how well they ported to Linux. It's probably a test marketing stunt, but still.
captaincranky
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captaincranky
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-Not to mention flat out rude.
captaincranky
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That part barely scratches to surface. I escaped the "red X", by simply not installing the update M$ had labeled "helps to install Windows 10"..
So, I had to reinstall a copy of Win 7, after several misadventures on my part. This copy wasn't SP 1. So now, I'm trying to reinstall on the same board as it was installed on for 13 years. M$ wouldn't allow me to use the original COA certificate code to activate. They put you through a big load of crap, and activate by telephone.
So, I wanted SP-1, since even Samsung's new migration software specifies SP-1. They wouldn't give that to me, and only offered the "final cumulative security update" I installed it. And guess what? It practically bricked the machine online.
I use Opera as a browser, which is Chrome, as is Edge. So, about 50% of the time, Opera blows up a warning about "your OS is saying the site has an invalid certificates".
That's all well and good, but now I can't navigate to Walmart, or even Wikipedia, without bypassing a security warning. Firefox OTOH, completely ignores this nonsense.
So, the only reasonable conclusion that I can reach, is that M$ intentionally bricked Windows 7, willfully, and with malice aforethought.
It's a psych-out. Since anybody inexperienced that ran into these messages, would probably think, "gee Windows 10 will protect me from these hazards. I should install it this very minute". "Gotcha", snickers M$..!
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ZedRM
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Wow, we agreed on something... I'm at odds with this..
ZedRM
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In fairness, FireFox does it a lot less, but it still happens. FireFox for the win?
captaincranky
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Let me see if I've understood you correctly. You're saying that you disagree with yourself for agreeing with me?
In this aspect, yes. However, Firefox seems to be more memory intensive. This is a 32 bit machine I'm playing with. When you close a tab, FF doesn't seem to want to give you the memory back. I sometimes have to go into task manager, and make wild guesses about which process to kill to retrieve it. I know, I know, it has to keep the processes running to enable the "recently closed" function to operate. Opera, OTOH, "snoozes tabs". and seems to use less memory overall. However, this is far from a "scientific conclusion", since I use the two browsers at once, but only do certain tasks with each one. Gmail uses a lot of memory, as does Newegg, and they're always on Firefox.
Any of that notwithstanding, I think this board (G-41 Matx), is on its last legs, (**) and it's only just now reached puberty. (Q4/09). It's sad really, it will never got to college, get married, or have children. I'd like to think it will be resurrected after it takes its last trip to the recycling station. But alas, it's spent its life with a heathen, and will likely not ascend to computer heaven, but rather lie moldering in a Chinese dump forever.
(**) It POSTs 4 times before the BIOS roll. That's not a good sign, is it?
But don't you worry, I have another relic waiting in the wings. "As god is my witness", you won't go without someone to disagree with most of the time for long, if at all.
Oh, before I forget, Happy Thanksgiving.
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ZedRM
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Goodness you need an upgrade!Let me see if I've understood you correctly. You're saying that you disagree with yourself for agreeing with me?
In this aspect, yes. However, Firefox seems to be more memory intensive. This is a 32 bit machine I'm playing with. When you close a tab, FF doesn't seem to want to give you the memory back. I sometimes have to go into task manager, and make wild guesses about which process to kill to retrieve it. I know, I know, it has to keep the processes running to enable the "recently closed" function to operate. Opera, OTOH, "snoozes tabs". and seems to use less memory overall. However, this is far from a "scientific conclusion", since I use the two browsers at once, but only do certain tasks with each one. Gmail uses a lot of memory, as does Newegg, and they're always on Firefox.
Any of that notwithstanding, I think this board (G-41 Matx), is on its last legs, (**) and it's only just now reached puberty. (Q4/09). It's sad really, it will never got to college, get married, or have children. I'd like to think it will be resurrected after it takes its last trip to the recycling station. But alas, it's spent its life with a heathen, and will likely not ascend to computer heaven, but rather lie moldering in a Chinese dump forever.
(**) It POSTs 4 times before the BIOS roll. That's not a good sign, is it?
But don't you worry, I have another relic waiting in the wings. "As god is my witness", you won't go without someone to disagree with most of the time for long, if at all.
Oh, before I forget, Happy Thanksgiving.
Avro Arrow
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My system is ineligible for Windows 11 for the best reason of all:
I DON'T WANT THE DAMN THING ON MY PC!!!
I DON'T WANT THE DAMN THING ON MY PC!!!
captaincranky
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Apparently, at least according to the adoption rate stats, you're far from being alone.But then again, unless you want to be perceived as a slacker by Satya Nadella, you'll rush right out and buy a new rig, just so you can spring for a copy.
Unfortunately, good versions of Windows, like alcoholism, skip a generation.
Soooo, it's safe to assume that Windon't 11, is only a beta for the (possibly subscription ?), Windows 12.
ZedRM
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Your loss. Windows 11, properly configured, is excellent!
ZedRM
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Rumor only. Windows 12 is not in the works ATM.
captaincranky
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I'd argue that it is indeed "in production, as Windows 11. Realistically speaking, the crew at Redmond is busy acclimating people to the idea that they have to buy a new rig if they intend to use it, "to its fullest"
Read beteen the lines, there's a least some evidence that they're introducing "planned obsolescence" into the desktop sector..
After Windows 10 was released, both team red and and team blue announced that from there on out, their CPUs "would only be fully compatible with Windows.10".. Considering the desktop market has been flagging in recent years, on my part it's not really too far a stretch to believe that M$, Intel, and AMD, are sort of an, "extended monopoly".
M$ is definitely trying to push holdouts like myself, out of Windows 7. They used to offer "XP Mode", for 7, a virtual machine that you could install XP onto it. It's gone.
As I said before they practically bricked 7 with their final update.
M$ also only offers the streaming and sales platform VUDO, for W 10 only. (It's normally Android/ Roku).. And they're the only place you can buy it for desktop.
Avro Arrow
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These are the W11-compatible parts that I have:
CPUs: R7-1700, R5-3600X, R7-5700X, R7-5800X3D
GPUs: 2 x R9 Fury, RX 5700 XT, RX 6800 XT
RAM: 32GB DDR4-3200, 16GB DDR4-2400
Motherboards: ASRock X370 Killer SLI, ASRock X570 Pro4, Biostar A320MH
PSUs: EVGA 1000 G2 Supernova, OCZ Z-Series Z1000M, 2 x Gigabyte P650B
SSDs: 2 x AData SATA-III standard, AData SATA-III M.2, WD Blue PCI-Express 3.0 NVMe
If Satya Nadella thinks that I should go and buy a new rig, there's a piece of my anatomy with which he can interact.
That would explain why I'm Irish/Italian/French and don't drink.
Yeah, that'll go over like a Led Zeppelin! If they start a subscription model, how long until the Linux adoption rate exceeds that of Windows? I'd say 3 years at most.
Interestingly, my FX-8350 runs Windows 10 just fine, even with 4 of the 8 cores disabled at stock clocks. Nevertheless, it is not supported by W11 (like I care). I can only imagine how much faster it would be with Linux. It would get a good boost from using Linux and I imagine it'd perform similar to the way that an R7-1700 performs with Windows 10.
ZedRM
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Using that logic we could say that Windows 23 is currently "in production" as it's being worked on through current versions of Windows. Such logic is utter nonsense and not worthy of a moments consideration.
ZedRM
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Yeah, that's a point you got right. Such is blatantly obvious with the pathetic attempt to limit hardware Windows 11 can be installed on. It is more low-life tactics from a company hell bent on being kings-of-hill in lowlife behavior.
captaincranky
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Then why did you reply, if I may be so bold as to inquire?
You'll recall that XP had 3 service packs, Windows 7 only 1.. It's obvious that Windows doesn't use a decimal addition as do some other software publishers. Note too, that Chrome abandoned that method, and each release is a new whole number.
Most, if not all, industry's product releases are in development long before being offered to the public.It's called, "lead time". In M$'s case, they do maintain a certain consistency in the kernel,, whatever "window dressing", or whatever doodad they'll place on the GUI to "improve it", that determines the number of any particular issue. Witness the "big fails", that were Windows 8 and Windows Vista. Yet Windows 7 was a huge success with its "Aero" interface and It wasn't operationally that far removed from Vista;.
We were almost getting along, Why try your hand at "mind reading", and spoil that by claiming, "I think that Windows 23 is already being developed"?. I don't, period.. But I'd bet that some of the coders at M$ are scratching their heads about how Windows 12 will appear and operate....
Besides, if M$ announced there would be a Windows 12 release, date certain, most people wouldn't bother purchasing Windows 11
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