Report claims almost half of systems are ineligible for Windows 11 upgrades

captaincranky

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Linux is calling baby! 99% of what I have runs on it now, the only exceptions are halo multiplayer and adobe products.
Believe it or not, if you can settle for Photoshop Elements, Adobe has it on their site as a download for Linux. The rest of the like, to the best of my knowledge, is strictly Windows and Mac.

Of course, we have yet to find out how well they ported to Linux. It's probably a test marketing stunt, but still.
 

captaincranky

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Windows 11 has been known for its onerous system requirements since before it launched. A new report claims those requirements are keeping a significant number of systems from upgrading and that Windows 11 adoption is lagging. Other reports are far less dire but still not optimistic.
You say that like it's a bad thing. :rolleyes:
 

captaincranky

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After the debacle that was Windows 10 basically fooling Windows 7 users into updating the OS, getting the red X for this is as good as a negative result on labwork for a terminal illness.
That part barely scratches to surface. I escaped the "red X", by simply not installing the update M$ had labeled "helps to install Windows 10"..

So, I had to reinstall a copy of Win 7, after several misadventures on my part. This copy wasn't SP 1. So now, I'm trying to reinstall on the same board as it was installed on for 13 years. M$ wouldn't allow me to use the original COA certificate code to activate. They put you through a big load of crap, and activate by telephone.

So, I wanted SP-1, since even Samsung's new migration software specifies SP-1. They wouldn't give that to me, and only offered the "final cumulative security update" I installed it. And guess what? It practically bricked the machine online.

I use Opera as a browser, which is Chrome, as is Edge. So, about 50% of the time, Opera blows up a warning about "your OS is saying the site has an invalid certificates".

That's all well and good, but now I can't navigate to Walmart, or even Wikipedia, without bypassing a security warning. Firefox OTOH, completely ignores this nonsense.

So, the only reasonable conclusion that I can reach, is that M$ intentionally bricked Windows 7, willfully, and with malice aforethought.

It's a psych-out. Since anybody inexperienced that ran into these messages, would probably think, "gee Windows 10 will protect me from these hazards. I should install it this very minute". "Gotcha", snickers M$..!
 
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captaincranky

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Wow, we agreed on something... I'm at odds with this..
Let me see if I've understood you correctly. You're saying that you disagree with yourself for agreeing with me?
In fairness, FireFox does it a lot less, but it still happens. FireFox for the win?
In this aspect, yes. However, Firefox seems to be more memory intensive. This is a 32 bit machine I'm playing with. When you close a tab, FF doesn't seem to want to give you the memory back. I sometimes have to go into task manager, and make wild guesses about which process to kill to retrieve it. I know, I know, it has to keep the processes running to enable the "recently closed" function to operate. Opera, OTOH, "snoozes tabs". and seems to use less memory overall. However, this is far from a "scientific conclusion", since I use the two browsers at once, but only do certain tasks with each one. Gmail uses a lot of memory, as does Newegg, and they're always on Firefox.

Any of that notwithstanding, I think this board (G-41 Matx), is on its last legs, (**) and it's only just now reached puberty. (Q4/09). It's sad really, it will never got to college, get married, or have children. I'd like to think it will be resurrected after it takes its last trip to the recycling station. But alas, it's spent its life with a heathen, and will likely not ascend to computer heaven, but rather lie moldering in a Chinese dump forever. :rolleyes:

(**) It POSTs 4 times before the BIOS roll. That's not a good sign, is it? :facepalm::poop:

But don't you worry, I have another relic waiting in the wings. "As god is my witness", you won't go without someone to disagree with most of the time for long, if at all. (y) (Y)

Oh, before I forget, Happy Thanksgiving.
 
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ZedRM

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Let me see if I've understood you correctly. You're saying that you disagree with yourself for agreeing with me?

In this aspect, yes. However, Firefox seems to be more memory intensive. This is a 32 bit machine I'm playing with. When you close a tab, FF doesn't seem to want to give you the memory back. I sometimes have to go into task manager, and make wild guesses about which process to kill to retrieve it. I know, I know, it has to keep the processes running to enable the "recently closed" function to operate. Opera, OTOH, "snoozes tabs". and seems to use less memory overall. However, this is far from a "scientific conclusion", since I use the two browsers at once, but only do certain tasks with each one. Gmail uses a lot of memory, as does Newegg, and they're always on Firefox.

Any of that notwithstanding, I think this board (G-41 Matx), is on its last legs, (**) and it's only just now reached puberty. (Q4/09). It's sad really, it will never got to college, get married, or have children. I'd like to think it will be resurrected after it takes its last trip to the recycling station. But alas, it's spent its life with a heathen, and will likely not ascend to computer heaven, but rather lie moldering in a Chinese dump forever. :rolleyes:

(**) It POSTs 4 times before the BIOS roll. That's not a good sign, is it? :facepalm::poop:

But don't you worry, I have another relic waiting in the wings. "As god is my witness", you won't go without someone to disagree with most of the time for long, if at all. (y) (Y)

Oh, before I forget, Happy Thanksgiving.
Goodness you need an upgrade!
 

captaincranky

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My system is ineligible for Windows 11 for the best reason of all:

I DON'T WANT THE DAMN THING ON MY PC!!!
Apparently, at least according to the adoption rate stats, you're far from being alone.But then again, unless you want to be perceived as a slacker by Satya Nadella, you'll rush right out and buy a new rig, just so you can spring for a copy.

Unfortunately, good versions of Windows, like alcoholism, skip a generation.

Soooo, it's safe to assume that Windon't 11, is only a beta for the (possibly subscription ?), Windows 12.
 

captaincranky

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Rumor only. Windows 12 is not in the works ATM.
I'd argue that it is indeed "in production, as Windows 11. Realistically speaking, the crew at Redmond is busy acclimating people to the idea that they have to buy a new rig if they intend to use it, "to its fullest"

Read beteen the lines, there's a least some evidence that they're introducing "planned obsolescence" into the desktop sector..

After Windows 10 was released, both team red and and team blue announced that from there on out, their CPUs "would only be fully compatible with Windows.10".. Considering the desktop market has been flagging in recent years, on my part it's not really too far a stretch to believe that M$, Intel, and AMD, are sort of an, "extended monopoly".

M$ is definitely trying to push holdouts like myself, out of Windows 7. They used to offer "XP Mode", for 7, a virtual machine that you could install XP onto it. It's gone.
As I said before they practically bricked 7 with their final update.

M$ also only offers the streaming and sales platform VUDO, for W 10 only. (It's normally Android/ Roku).. And they're the only place you can buy it for desktop.
 

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Apparently, at least according to the adoption rate stats, you're far from being alone.But then again, unless you want to be perceived as a slacker by Satya Nadella, you'll rush right out and buy a new rig, just so you can spring for a copy.
These are the W11-compatible parts that I have:
CPUs: R7-1700, R5-3600X, R7-5700X, R7-5800X3D
GPUs: 2 x R9 Fury, RX 5700 XT, RX 6800 XT
RAM: 32GB DDR4-3200, 16GB DDR4-2400
Motherboards: ASRock X370 Killer SLI, ASRock X570 Pro4, Biostar A320MH
PSUs: EVGA 1000 G2 Supernova, OCZ Z-Series Z1000M, 2 x Gigabyte P650B
SSDs: 2 x AData SATA-III standard, AData SATA-III M.2, WD Blue PCI-Express 3.0 NVMe

If Satya Nadella thinks that I should go and buy a new rig, there's a piece of my anatomy with which he can interact.
Unfortunately, good versions of Windows, like alcoholism, skip a generation.
That would explain why I'm Irish/Italian/French and don't drink. :laughing:
Soooo, it's safe to assume that Windon't 11, is only a beta for the (possibly subscription ?), Windows 12.
Yeah, that'll go over like a Led Zeppelin! If they start a subscription model, how long until the Linux adoption rate exceeds that of Windows? I'd say 3 years at most.

Interestingly, my FX-8350 runs Windows 10 just fine, even with 4 of the 8 cores disabled at stock clocks. Nevertheless, it is not supported by W11 (like I care). I can only imagine how much faster it would be with Linux. It would get a good boost from using Linux and I imagine it'd perform similar to the way that an R7-1700 performs with Windows 10.