The new Intel Ivy Bridge line is a incremental improvement upon Sandy Bridge.
/fixed
...Bulldozer was a colossal fail. It makes me angry at AMD they would even develop it, or that they didn't fire every single engineer who worked on it six months ago, and then sue them all for willful destruction of assets or something
Overreact much? Bulldozer is a direct product of AMD's falling server marketshare allied with a CEO who was tied deeply with server products. By the time AMD realized that the product wasn't going to be what they thought, they were already committed to the architecture- AMD mortgaged their future enterprise/desktop on Bulldozer architecture. Piledriver, Steamroller and Excavator will be a product of a decision made six-seven years ago...a bit late to start handing out the last cigarettes. You might also note that not all the ills are of AMD's making. Globalfoundries less than stellar intro to 32nm plays a small role, while Intel's near flawless execution since Conroe, and the speed of their tick-tock microarch-die shrink timetable (not to mention R&D budget) was always going to ensure that AMD were going to be behind the eight ball
But it still doesn't make me like Intel fanboys. Stop being so aggressive.
Hey aggressive Intel fanboys and fud spreading AMD fanboys...you think if they were put in the same forum thread they'd cancel each other out like some B-grade SF matter/anti-matter scenario?
It's pretty hard to recommend AMD anywhere
Not really. The Radeon part of AMD is pretty good. I recommend them more often than not
..but it is true that decent AMD mother boards are cheaper, something the fanboy ignores, and should be looked at in the overall price equation. If I was doing a "cheap" (and it'd be the only way AMD would be acceptable) I could use a $60 motherboard, where the cheapest non garbage Intel Mobo I see is $90. Not saying even that makes AMD a buy anywhere, it doesn't.
Wow, thats like spending an entire paragraph saying nothing. Can I have my twenty seconds back?
Also Intel fanboys, stop using Microcenter pricing to make Intel prices look better. For me I'd have to burn $40 in round trip gas, plus hours of travel time, just to get to a Microcenter
Hold up there Einstein, If you actually read the thread you'll note that the AMD
fanboy Guest started railing against the price/performance of Intel using Amazon and Newegg prices...while simultaneously using an AMD example bought for cheap (combo deal) from Microcenter- which they actually bought. That is a pretty decent example of hypocrisy in action...and since my reply was in relation to that posting, maybe you shouldn't attribute some global implication. Anyhow,
nice try with the aggrieved attitude.
The 2500k is way too expensive, period....That a hell of a lot of money for just a CPU....a bare CPU. I can get a whole damn Xbox for 199
Cool. Buy the Xbox. You'll be happy you've found your level
I blame AMD for not providing any competition too
AMD to blame? Intel to blame ? Just as well you're buying MS Xbox ! Might I suggest VIA ?
Oh and love Ivy Bridge which from what I can tell is actually worse than Sandy Bridge
Yup, wrong again. Great strike rate there Jose Canseco.
Clock for clock looks like 11.8% improvement for IB over Sandy (3.5G 3770K vs 2700K) for 9% higher price, and 9.6% improvement for the non-HT 6MB L3 cache part (3.4G 3570K vs 2550K) for 4.3% higher price....
all using less power- go figure! Since you're Xbox shopping I guess you're not too wrapped up in actual CPU results.
Thats one more silver lining if any for AMD, Ivy Bridge sucked (though I did kind of enjoy the annoying Intel fanboys who have been posting on forums about waiting for Ivy Bridge for the last 50,000 years getting owned).
Cool. I was wondering when the hyperbole infused straw man argument was going to make an entrance.
I can actually see something like a Piledriver with 10% more IPC and 10% more clockspeed (so basically, 20% faster across the board) or something.
Combined efficiency estimate is 24% - Higher clocks (4 - 4.2) added to slightly increased IPC and a slight reduction in power consumption (clock-for-clock).
Here's the long version (pdf)
Happy Xbox shopping.